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The increasing rate of population in Cucumis is declining, why?

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29 October 2009 23:33  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
I find sometimes that, from April to now, the growth of population in Cucumis is slowing down.

I don't know the reason, but I guess it is not because of season. I think there must be something wrong with the management.

In my opinion, strict banning system might be the direct reason.

I will be happy to hear all your proposals and waiting for your solutions.
 

5 July 2008 17:03  

pias
Number of messages: 8113
I have no solution pluiepoco, but I believe it HAS to do with the season. When looking at the memberstatistic ...the most represented countries are in the northern hemisphere, and summer is maybe not a "sitting in front of the computer season".

How was the statistic last April to now?
 

5 July 2008 18:46  

Botica
Number of messages: 643
I think a lot of new user subscribe to Cucumis at school, and now they're in holidays...

Is it really a problem?

A lot of new members subscribe... and never come back again. I prefer members really interested in translation.

Nevertheless, jp created this site as a market between translators. He created very user-friendly tools I appreciate very much.

But his creation has upgraded slightly differently than his first idea.

New members have often no linguistic skills : they only search translators.

A lot of translators are happy to translate for free : they don't need points to exchange (it's just to compete).

In my humble opinion, jp, great creator, administrator, master and almighty god of this site, should preserve this wonderful tool, and let all those translation seekers get that they want.

Maybe, more points given to newcomers could at first ease this evolution. Growth could also bring about problems. New translators, experts, administrators needed...

Does jp want more and more users, or does he prefer a site with skilled and good-natured members?

What do you think, cucumers?
 

5 July 2008 21:28  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
During the summer the traffic of the site has always decreased.
I don't think that the few people we ban, is the reason of the decreasing.
Also, I don't know if it can be part of the reason, but a few days ago, I made a big mistake. Most of the pages were not available anymore for unlogged people and thus for search engines too. This has decreased the number of visitors the search engines send to the site.

Also, baidu, the leading chinese search engine, was sending abuot 300 visitors on cucumis a few months ago. And one day it has stopped, as if cucumis had been black listed by baidu...

Anyway, the traffic of the site can't grow for ever. I don't do anything for this because simply I couldn't manage such a grow. No more spare time.

A few weeks ago, the traffic was very high, almost 16000 visitors a day, and the english/turkish bakclogs were very hard to manage. I'm not sure if cucumis could handle too many requests/translations.
 

6 July 2008 03:11  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
to Pias, the most represented countries are Turkey in the north and Brazil in the south, so I don't think the season can be the reason.

By the way, it is really hot in the north, and I am not willing to stay in front of computer for too long.

As Botica says, the website has deviated from its original conception, but it is okay, and almost all of us agree to continue with it. And I am very curious about what you mean in "preserve this wonderful tool", can you detail it more?

As Jp says, Cucumis has a bottle neck for traffic flow. I am not familiar with informatique, and I find that Cucumis can still be found through Baidu search engine, but there is only one item displayed in the results. (I think this is the result of your "big mistke", yes it must be!)

And I think jp is worrying about how to handle huge traffics on Cucumis, are you? can you suggest what we could help, at least you have us. For example, you might need technical hands, or running costs, or so.
 

6 July 2008 08:24  

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Hi pluiepoco,
yes you are right, the most represented countries are Turkey in the north and Brazil in the south. But if you take all those "smal countries" in account too, I think that the most represented part of the world would be the north ...
 

6 July 2008 10:09  

Botica
Number of messages: 643
Pluiepoco, I mean that other free translations sites exist. They propose direct contact between bidders and translators. Cucumis interface allows translators to protect their email anonymity.
Evaluating system is not perfect but it's rather satisfying. And jp created a lot of useful tools.
Cucumis could evolve with more quality. We need more experts (some languages lack them). Technically, jp's got a long todo list, because cucumers have made a lot of suggestions to improve the interface. But I'm not upset about a decreasing rate of increase.
 

7 July 2008 09:29  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
All experts/admins are doing a great job. The site is now nothing without you. Not sure what you can do more than you are already doing.

The decrease of baidu traffic is not coming from my mistake, it happend the 6th of december 2007.
You can see the traffic was growing very nicely, and suddenly this has stopped. Pluiepoco, maybe you can send a word to baidu with this picture to ask them why it happened ? I'm not sure they will reply to you, but who knows...
traffic sent by baidu
 

7 July 2008 11:14  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
Ok, I will try to ask them why and get their reply.
 

28 August 2008 23:59  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
The traffic is increasing again. The record has been broken yesterday (about 16400 visitors).

Btw pluiepoco, did you get an answer from baidu ?
 

6 December 2008 00:39  

pluiepoco
Number of messages: 1263
No, I am sorry that when I tried to contact Baidu, I found it was almost impossible.

There is no online or telephone contact of Baidu in any corner of China.

I quit after a few of inquiries, because I just could not find any one who is responsible for technical support. It is a portable public company!
 

22 January 2009 18:27  

cucumis
Number of messages: 3785
Ok thanks anyway.

Again the record has been broken yesterday (19915 visitors). But very chinese people .
 

11 March 2009 16:49  

jp
Number of messages: 385
Keep growing. 22000 visitors yesterday. This might mean an increase number of requests and worload for experts and adminsitrators.
 

29 October 2009 21:59  

cjcjmkx7
Number of messages: 7
I do not know in general why cucumis is slowing. But I can give some unpleasant experiences I have as a translator. I am a full time professional translator. My work for cucumis is more difficult than professional work. That is a problem. With such a situation, cucumis cannot hope to really succeed.

The main reason is that the reviewers are very aggressive, and demand that I change my work. They always have a reason for their changes, and I almost always disagree with their changes. I make the changes, but it is basically twice the work, often to make a worse result. It would help if reviewers would consider that often there is a reason for the original translation style. Now, I am forced to turn off my "receive email notifications when you receive messages about your translations", because too many bothersome emails for tiny translations. In my opinion, this is a serious problem.
 

30 October 2009 11:48  

jp
Number of messages: 385
Hi cjcjmkx7, thx for your feedback. Can you post some links of discussions where you think the changes requested by the reviewers was not necessary ?

Note that the reviewers makes a VERY difficult job.
 

6 July 2010 21:03  

classic_mechanic
Number of messages: 6
I don't know, but I think there's a lots more people out there. I have been looking for a good language site for a long time and I've only now found cucumis.

This is way better than other sites like wordreference.com, but people still go there. We should try to get the word out there better.
 
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