It's guilt of god to suppose that man is guilty.

As I say,

God is the protoguilt.

OMG!!!!!

Pluiepoco, you have too much free time! Instead of getting into such deep philosophy you should rather go to a disco and find your wife!

On the other hand, I think your thread may anger other Cucumers, so I think you really should NOT open such threads in the future!!!

This question was arisen in my chatting...

I think there are many things, like doctrines, which can standardize us in terms of morale, idea, like and dislike, judge, decision, suppose, dream.... and any other aspects of living and unliving things.

When a thing is spoken by a person, is it solid or soft?

By doctrines, things can be deemed solid in our doctrinist believes, or soft out of the believes.

If a man lives in a fact which is built on doctrines, can his life be as solid as the ground he stands on?

I am very sorry that man is always judged before he commits.

[Bold]And, I had an experience when my lover and her religious brothers and sisters were trying to persuade me into God belief. They judged me that I must be guilty, before they even knew my history, they just supposed so in very absolute logics: Man must be guilty, so he has to compensate God who is believed to have paid all mankind's guilts.

But I disagreed with them, and I believe that I am not guilty, and am solidly innocent,so they said that I was stupid human! They did judge me on behalf of their beleved god. But I am not in my own world. Later, that girl wanted to marry me, but she returned to her hometown, and wanted to solicit me to there for a marriage, but I didn't want to live in that small town. So she married another man after two years of fence-riding.[/Bold]

Uh uh!
I think you know that you can not be guilty if you had not done anything wrong pluiepoco! It's their problem if they think that way! SO, their above judgement has nothing to do with God and you should know that it's offensive to hear such things (like "God is the protoguilt" ) for the ones believing in God!

Agree 100% with smy!!!!
And my point of view about this is that people that judge other before knowing their story/ or the truth is stupid! ..If you don't give other people a fair/pure chance to express themselves.. before you judge them...You are the one to lose

So pluiepoco...don't pay attention to people judge you!

And in what language of this world does "protoguilt" exist?

When I searched for "proto-guilt", I found four:



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found four examples

The reason I wrote this thread post, is because a few days ago, some MSN contact said "fuck off" to me, just because she had not been "discovering" me that I am ironic person who told her that "stay late at night can make people fat" after enquiry about her bodyweight.

The predicament is that I was thought to be ironic or erotic when I was unaware.

Thinking of this, I believe that man can live better without God.

ok, the Oxford dictionary says this:

"proto-

• combining form 1 original; primitive: prototype. 2 first; relating to a precursor: protozoon."

First of all,you did not write it corectly in the begining, there is no dash there.

Second: good luck living without God!

Hi!

If interested that´s ´original sin´ in English.

Pluiepoco,
according to a dictionary:
sin-罪惡
guilt- 罪
Hope this helps to understand the difference between ´guilt´ and ´sin´, but generally, I would say that ´sin´ is the crime you commit and you feel ´guilt´ and you become ´guilty´.

Ok, Cisa, Thanks, you know me so well in this idea.

God blames, but it is Him to blame.

Sorry, I´m not interested in such ´God-discussions´, you just used those words wrongly, so I just helped lest next tiem you won´t make the same mistakes.

Turkish doesn't have this protoguilt word iepurica and maybe no language in the world has it

Devil and God are of the same origin.

If we don't create either of them, we won't believe either of them, and if we creat either of them, we must suffer both.

Like poor and rich, they are interdependent and twins.

Beautiful and ugly...

and I think that man struggles against himself when the world is not created for him, but he attempts to mark everything with his colours, and understand in his way, because he can do more than feed his stomach, and he has to influence others.

And obiously, bible and many religions concentrate on human relations and the ruling of God; do they ever think this way, if man is composed of water and earth, the basic elements of the ground, can human be different from any stones, trees?

The creator must believe that the World did not exist without man!

Is this true?
If we are made from elements on the earth, what is god made of?
And I believe that any god belief is created by the principle of monism which is conceived by human standard.