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4 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 15:01  

lilian canale
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one people ---> one person
 

4 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 16:02  

kendin_ol_19
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If you know one language, you are only one person,
but if you know two language you are two people...
 

5 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 00:10  

fikomix
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Selam merdogan
Burada "üç dil bilen insandır" diyor, sen ise "üç dil bilen üç insandır" gibi tercüme etmişsin.
Bence anlamı çok değişmiş.
 

5 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 01:21  

merdogan
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Merhaba fikomix
Üç tümceyi toplu halde düşünürsek "üç insandır" daha uygun. Yani diğerleri insan değil mi?
 

5 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 12:04  

fikomix
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Tamam, fakat bence bu üçüncüde, diğer ikisinde gibi birey ya da sayı gibi kastedilmiyor. Üçüncüsünde insan, türkçe'de kullanılan tabir ile: büyük adam/büyük insan/büyük yürekli insan yada o bir İNSAN gibi, değerli insan anlamı kastediliyor.
Bilmiyorum, bence "three people-->(big)Human"a ne dersin? Yada buna benzer.
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Merhaba kendin_ol_19
Sen de düşünceni buralarda yazabilirsin, çünkü bu senin sunduğun bir metin .
 

5 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 23:33  

Sunnybebek
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Bence de Fikomix daha doÄŸru .

I agree with Fiko. I think it wouldn't be correct to translate "üç dil bilen insandır" as "A person who knows three languages is three people", because in the original it is not used "three people", but just "human/person" (A person who knows three languages is a Human/(real) Human).
 

6 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 13:59  

merdogan
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I don't agree with you.
to be a real human there are other
characteristics.
 

6 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 23:50  

lilian canale
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Hi guys, I'd be glad if you posted the comments in English, OK?

@ kendin_ol_19,

This is a bit weird.
What does it mean exactly? Is it a Turkish saying/proverb?
I'm not sure if it will keep the meaning in other languages.
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 00:02  

Francky5591
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Translation into French is different, yet awkward as well...

Si un homme parle une langue, alors deux hommes parlent deux langues : ce sont en tout trois langues qu’ils parlent. (If a man speaks one language, then two men speak two languages, these are altogether three languages they speak"...
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 01:30  

Iserb
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There's a correct translation in French here :

http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2007/2/7/un_commentaire_ou_peutetre_une_protestation
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 01:31  

Iserb
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A person who knows a language is one person.
A person who knows two languages is two people.
A person who knows three languages is all humanity.

Then it's satisfying. Sorry for the latter mistake Francky.
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 10:19  

Francky5591
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Thanks a lot Iserb!

Lilian, have a look to the recently validated French version, as this is the right one, we checked and this proverb is quoted at a link I provided. Thus an edit according to the French version would be fine on that one above!

 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 15:52  

kendin_ol_19
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‘'A person who knows a language is one person, A person who knows two languages (are) two people, a person who knows three languages (are) three people…’’ I agree with merdogan. I made a little mistake in translation request. Must be ''Bir dil bilen bir insan, iki dil bilen iki insan, üç dil bilen üç insandır...''
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 15:54  

kendin_ol_19
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Merdogan haklısın çeviriye sunduğum cümleyi yanlış yazmışım. ‘’Bir dil bilen bir insan, iki dil bilen iki insan, üç dil bilen üç insandır.’’ olmalı ama düzeltemedim Bu cümle sanırım Peygamber Efendimizin bir Hadisi. Ama internette buna dair hiçbirşey bulamadım. Cümlenin orjinalini araştırıyorum.
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 16:02  

kendin_ol_19
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This sentence is very value. It isn't a Turkish saying/proverb. The original sentence coming from Arabic. The Prophet Muhammad's Saying. I'm etymologizing.
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 16:43  

Francky5591
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Have a look here, this is what we found about this proverb :

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17154855

 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 18:09  

Aneta B.
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If you don't mind, maybe it could be in this less literal way:

The person, who speaks one language, is worth one person,
The person, who speaks two languages, is worth two people etc.
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 19:11  

lilian canale
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Thanks everyone
I think this version is fine now.
 

7 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 19:15  

Aneta B.
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You're welcome!
 

9 Σεπτέμβριος 2009 23:11  

kendin_ol_19
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Can I rewrite my Translation Request? I have a little mistake.
‘’Bir dil bilen bir insan, iki dil bilen iki insan, üç dil bilen üç insandır.’’
 
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