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| 11 Shtator 2009 18:57 |
| Dzięki znowu, Aniu!
I ask Lilian for evaluation of this poem...
CC: lilian canale |
| 11 Shtator 2009 19:46 |
| Hi Aneta, Hi iluvmilka,
Great job! I'd just suggest a few options to make it sound more natural.
The way you looked at me,
The way you still do,
Has enchanted me
When I beheld your hands
I desired their touch
Your warm voice plied me a shelter
Then...I could be myself
And I could be gorgeous
What do you think?
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| 11 Shtator 2009 20:01 |
| I'm ashamed! I typed "you still does"!!!
For me great, Lilian!
But what does "plied" mean? It is from "ply" and does it mean sth like "fill out" or "fulfil"? |
| 11 Shtator 2009 23:23 |
| ply/provide/supply/cater = provide what is desired or needed, especially support, food or sustenance |
| 11 Shtator 2009 23:31 |
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| 12 Shtator 2009 18:06 |
| It seems to be alright. But as i said, you could use some of my ideas such alliteration just to make it more poetic but obviously its your poetry so you can choose |
| 12 Shtator 2009 18:41 |
| Well, maybe my poetry, but I can't decide what is more beautiful and correct in English... We think in Polish, Ania, because we are Polish. Let's trust Lilian! She is a great English expert.
Lilly, you can accept, I guess. |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:19 |
| What is "plied me a shelter"? I don't understand that phrase.
Also, I'm not sure about "I could be gorgeous" - the word "gorgeous" is usually used to describe a woman who is strikingly beautiful (appearance). It can also be used for a landscape. But we almost never use it describe ourselves - it sounds a bit like boasting. |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:23 |
| Doesn't it mean "provide a shelter/feeling of safety"?
He he.. It was Ania's proposition. I typed in my brigde to Lilly: "I could be beautiful"
I meant that under his gaze I could feel to be beautiful... |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:24 |
| Why did you use "plied"? How about "given me" or "provided me with"?
How about this: "Your warm voice gave me a shelter from the storm" - This is a common phrase in English, and it gives the image of warmth and safety. |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:25 |
| "I could be beautiful" is much better. |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:26 |
| By the way, we don't say "feel to be" - we would either just say "feel beautiful" or "feel that I am/was beautiful". |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:28 |
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| 12 Shtator 2009 19:27 |
| If "shelter from the storm" is too long, you could say this: "Your warm voice gave me shelter" - without the article it gives the meaning you want. |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:28 |
| You're welcome, Aneta - it's a beautiful poem!
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| 12 Shtator 2009 19:32 |
| Thank you, dear Laura! I've got more of them. Three Ania's translations of them already evaluated... I will regularly submit all of them... Could you help in improving the translations from time to time (as a native), please? |
| 12 Shtator 2009 19:34 |
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| 12 Shtator 2009 22:13 |
| What do you think, Lilly, after the discussion with Laura? What shall we do now? |
| 12 Shtator 2009 23:56 |
| I think if Laura is available, she is certainly a better choice to evaluate your poems as a native speaker. I'd like her to take care of them.
Laura, what do you say? Do you have some free time to help us with that?
Aneta and her poetry deserve getting the best possible translations |
| 13 Shtator 2009 00:08 |
| Lilly, I don't agree, sorry The more people working on them, the better I believe... I wanted she jointed to our team (4 people now) and helped us too. But I still need your help, dear one. In Polish we say: "Co dwie głowy, to nie jedna" (literally: The one head isn't so good as two heads" )
Please, don't give up. I asked your opinion in the post above, because it is very important for me. Kafetzou is a native but American one. I requested about British English translations...Can you remember? |