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2 February 2008 16:43  

dramati
จำนวนข้อความ: 972
Hi,

Can't say the size of the rock is the frog in English.

You CAN say "A rock sized frog.:

Or "The frog was the size of a rock."

The reason for this is that a rock can be ANY size, from the size of a small car to the size of a perl, but a frog is always, more or less, a size that can be identified and associated with. now, if this is a Spanish saying, we have to find something that is like the saying in English...in any case a word for word translation will not work here.

CC: guilon
 

2 February 2008 17:15  

gloonie
จำนวนข้อความ: 5
This is, I believe, a Mexican saying, so it can't be translated word-for-word. Also, I think "pedrada" refers to a hit with a stone, not a stone. Anyone know this saying?
 

2 February 2008 18:12  

nate
จำนวนข้อความ: 3
I must say that...now I agree with 'gloonie'.. i never thought in that way
 

2 February 2008 18:24  

dramati
จำนวนข้อความ: 972
So what we have to do is put our heads together and give this meaning in English.
 

2 February 2008 18:29  

nate
จำนวนข้อความ: 3
maybe...the stone that was used to hit someone had the size of a frog
 

2 February 2008 19:11  

gloonie
จำนวนข้อความ: 5
I asked some people from Mexico who had heard the saying, and the closest I can come to the meaning is that "the means should be adwequate to the end". IN other words, the size of the stone should match the size of the frog. (or, more brutally, to smash the frog you need an equal-sized rock!)

Still not sure, though....
 

2 February 2008 21:16  

dramati
จำนวนข้อความ: 972
Now that sounds ok in English to: "The means should equal the results." or "Force should be used in direct ratio to the results."
 

3 February 2008 06:05  

dramati
จำนวนข้อความ: 972
So lets go with the to smash the frog you need an equal-sized rock!
 

3 February 2008 09:26  

dramati
จำนวนข้อความ: 972
So why does pirulito disagree? Do you have something better pirulito? If not I can't count your vote unless you can defend it.
 

3 February 2008 09:53  

pyedro
จำนวนข้อความ: 2
The smash is big as your mistake.
 

3 February 2008 13:00  

Freya
จำนวนข้อความ: 1910
I found something that will help in solving the mystery it's here, the lower part of the page
 

3 February 2008 13:28  

lilian canale
จำนวนข้อความ: 14972
Freya...you have really solved the mistery!!!

Don't use a lot where a little will do.

is just a perfect match to the meaning of the mexican saying.

(where do you find those treasures???)

 

3 February 2008 14:04  

Freya
จำนวนข้อความ: 1910
I have my "secret" sites which I use every time I find this sort of texts.
 

3 February 2008 14:06  

lilian canale
จำนวนข้อความ: 14972

 

3 February 2008 14:57  

Nego
จำนวนข้อความ: 66
This is a mexican proverb it seems, literally meaning 'the size of the frog determines the stone-cast'.

I don't know an equal expression in english but it should be something like:

don't use a lot where a little will do / don't use a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
 

3 February 2008 15:01  

Nego
จำนวนข้อความ: 66
ok next time I will check other people's comments first, I ended up at the same site without knowing it, could have saved me half an hour
 

3 February 2008 15:14  

lecocouk
จำนวนข้อความ: 98
Freya is right...or her secret site
 

3 February 2008 15:27  

gloonie
จำนวนข้อความ: 5
Not so secret site! :-) - I also saw it. I think we're getting close to the meaning! Thanks Freya and all!
 

3 February 2008 16:29  

Freya
จำนวนข้อความ: 1910
In fact, I didn't really know the meaning of this saying, but I was curious and this was enough to make me want to search it on the net.
Another thing from another site, only it is in Spanish here...strange, they don't agree
 

3 February 2008 16:52  

Freya
จำนวนข้อความ: 1910
Anyway, after reading this I believe the saying wants to express something like: "According to your acts, you get what you deserve." or something like this.
 
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