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| 20 October 2007 00:13 |
| What does
the level of sense
mean?
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| 20 October 2007 00:17 |
| maybe it is awareness, or understanding |
| 20 October 2007 04:35 |
| I think it's "feeling", but I liked "sense" as a translation here. |
| 20 October 2007 06:00 |
smyจำนวนข้อความ: 2481 | duyu = sense (connected to our five senses), so "level of sense" is about the level these senses work correctly, I assume |
| 20 October 2007 11:29 |
| efficiency olacak; independence level olacak |
| 20 October 2007 12:25 |
smyจำนวนข้อความ: 2481 | "efficiency" daha çok "verimlilik"le ilgili olduÄŸu için burada "yararlılık" da anlamına gelen "efficacy" daha uygun oluyor gökberk, aslında en baÅŸta ben de "efficiency" kullanmıştım ama sonra deÄŸiÅŸtirdim. TeÅŸekkürler! |
| 20 October 2007 14:27 |
| "efficacy" is good. Maybe instead of "life quality", "quality of life". |
| 20 October 2007 15:48 |
smyจำนวนข้อความ: 2481 | ok, I'll change it that way.
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| 20 October 2007 22:15 |
| How about, instead of "the level of sense, perception", "the level of sensory perception"? |
| 21 October 2007 07:30 |
smyจำนวนข้อความ: 2481 | No, definitely sensory perception wouldn't be ok because it's not that way in the source text and secondly they convey different meanings in the source text: "duyu (sense)" is about the five senses and "algı (perception)" is about the power of understanding (regarding these kids)
and in fact I want to be sure whether my translation conveys the meaning of the source because this part (duyu,algı, motor beceriler, yaşam kalitesi ve bağımsızlık düzeyi) actually means (duyu düzeyi, algı düzeyi, motor beceriler düzeyi, yaşam kalitesi düzeyi ve bağımsızlık düzeyi -level of sense, level of perception, level of motor skills, level of quality of life, level of independence) so maybe I should have said "levels of...."
what do you think Kafetzou and IanMegill?
Regards! |
| 21 October 2007 09:20 |
| ilginiz için teşekkür ederim buradaki duyu seviyesi değil çocuğun duyu algı motor integrasyonu ile ilgili olduğu için ben level of sense kullanmadım bu benim tez önerim olduğu için bir de buradaki uzmanlar çevirsin istedim.
sevgiler... |
| 21 October 2007 10:30 |
| Would this be okay?
levels of sens ing, perceiving and motor skills, quality of life and...
I just want to make it clear that it's about sensation, and not the "sense" that means "reason" or "good sense"...
Finally, does the "level" refer to only the sensing, or also to the perceiving and motor skills and quality of life, etc.?
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| 21 October 2007 14:33 |
smyจำนวนข้อความ: 2481 | selam hatice06 and hello Ian Megill,
hatice06, buradaki "düzey" hem "bağımsızlık düzeyi"nden hem de "duyu, algı... düzeylerinden" bahsediyor değil mi? yoksa yazdığınız gibi (duyu algı motor integrasyonu ) birleşik mi olacak?(uzmanların çevirmesini istiyorsanız yüksek kalite işareti koymanız gerekirdi).
IanMegill, I think "level" here refers to all of them but I just asked hatice06 to make sure. I'll wait her explanation then I can change it the way you suggest (levels of sensing, perceiving and motor skills, quality of life and...). I'm right about sense being connected with five senses and perception being the power of understanding/recognizing things using sense (it is not about "insight" , isn't it?
regards! |
| 21 October 2007 11:22 |
| Selam smy!
Great! I guess we'll wait for hatice06's answer and then I guess we can fix it and validate it!
I think I understand what you mean about sensation, i.e. the five senses: that's why I wanted to change it to "sensing"! |
| 21 October 2007 11:29 |
smyจำนวนข้อความ: 2481 | hope she comes back and explains, thank you very much! |
| 21 October 2007 16:20 |
| Ian, what you missed in this discussion is that hatice06 wrote that she did not mean level of sensing (duyu seviyesi), although that was a good suggestion on your part, I think, what she meant was the child's sensory-perception-motor integration (duyu algı motor integrasyonu). I'm just wondering why she didn't write that if that was what she meant ...
Anyway, here is my current suggestion, based on what hatice06 wrote above:
çocukların duyu,algı, motor beceriler, yaşam kalitesi ve bağımsızlık düzeyi
"the children's sensory, perception, and motor skills, as well as their quality of life and level of independence"
I think we can wait a couple of days for hatice06 to get back to us, but if she doesn't we should go ahead and use this. |
| 21 October 2007 16:22 |
| P.S. I think it's "cerebral palsy" in English. |
| 21 October 2007 16:29 |
| Here is my suggestion for the whole thing:
AN EXAMINATION OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF TWO DIFFERENT HOME PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN WITH SPASTIC HEMIPARETIC CEREBRAL PALSY
The purpose of this study is to examine the effectiveness of a traditional home program and an activity-based home program on the sensory, perception, and motor skills, as well as the quality of life and level of independence of children with spastic hemiparetic cerebral palsy. |
| 21 October 2007 16:34 |
| Hayır yaşam kalitesi ve bağımsızlık düzeyi ayrı. Şimdi şöyle ifade edeyim ben burda duyu bütünlüğü testleri ile duyu-algı becerilerini,motor yetenekleri ayrı,yaşam kalitesini ve bağımsızlık düzeyini ayrı değerlendireceğim. |
| 21 October 2007 16:43 |
| The aim of this study is to evaluate the impact of two different home therapy program on sensation,perception,motor abilities,quality of life and level of independence in children with spastic hemiparetic cerebral palsy
peki bu nasıl? |