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4 September 2009 15:01  

lilian canale
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one people ---> one person
 

4 September 2009 16:02  

kendin_ol_19
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If you know one language, you are only one person,
but if you know two language you are two people...
 

5 September 2009 00:10  

fikomix
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Selam merdogan
Burada "üç dil bilen insandır" diyor, sen ise "üç dil bilen üç insandır" gibi tercüme etmişsin.
Bence anlamı çok değişmiş.
 

5 September 2009 01:21  

merdogan
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Merhaba fikomix
Üç tümceyi toplu halde düşünürsek "üç insandır" daha uygun. Yani diğerleri insan değil mi?
 

5 September 2009 12:04  

fikomix
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Tamam, fakat bence bu üçüncüde, diğer ikisinde gibi birey ya da sayı gibi kastedilmiyor. Üçüncüsünde insan, türkçe'de kullanılan tabir ile: büyük adam/büyük insan/büyük yürekli insan yada o bir İNSAN gibi, değerli insan anlamı kastediliyor.
Bilmiyorum, bence "three people-->(big)Human"a ne dersin? Yada buna benzer.
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Merhaba kendin_ol_19
Sen de düşünceni buralarda yazabilirsin, çünkü bu senin sunduğun bir metin .
 

5 September 2009 23:33  

Sunnybebek
Number of messages: 758
Bence de Fikomix daha doÄŸru .

I agree with Fiko. I think it wouldn't be correct to translate "üç dil bilen insandır" as "A person who knows three languages is three people", because in the original it is not used "three people", but just "human/person" (A person who knows three languages is a Human/(real) Human).
 

6 September 2009 13:59  

merdogan
Number of messages: 3769
I don't agree with you.
to be a real human there are other
characteristics.
 

6 September 2009 23:50  

lilian canale
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Hi guys, I'd be glad if you posted the comments in English, OK?

@ kendin_ol_19,

This is a bit weird.
What does it mean exactly? Is it a Turkish saying/proverb?
I'm not sure if it will keep the meaning in other languages.
 

7 September 2009 00:02  

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Translation into French is different, yet awkward as well...

Si un homme parle une langue, alors deux hommes parlent deux langues : ce sont en tout trois langues qu’ils parlent. (If a man speaks one language, then two men speak two languages, these are altogether three languages they speak"...
 

7 September 2009 01:30  

Iserb
Number of messages: 30
There's a correct translation in French here :

http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2007/2/7/un_commentaire_ou_peutetre_une_protestation
 

7 September 2009 01:31  

Iserb
Number of messages: 30
A person who knows a language is one person.
A person who knows two languages is two people.
A person who knows three languages is all humanity.

Then it's satisfying. Sorry for the latter mistake Francky.
 

7 September 2009 10:19  

Francky5591
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Thanks a lot Iserb!

Lilian, have a look to the recently validated French version, as this is the right one, we checked and this proverb is quoted at a link I provided. Thus an edit according to the French version would be fine on that one above!

 

7 September 2009 15:52  

kendin_ol_19
Number of messages: 99
‘'A person who knows a language is one person, A person who knows two languages (are) two people, a person who knows three languages (are) three people…’’ I agree with merdogan. I made a little mistake in translation request. Must be ''Bir dil bilen bir insan, iki dil bilen iki insan, üç dil bilen üç insandır...''
 

7 September 2009 15:54  

kendin_ol_19
Number of messages: 99
Merdogan haklısın çeviriye sunduğum cümleyi yanlış yazmışım. ‘’Bir dil bilen bir insan, iki dil bilen iki insan, üç dil bilen üç insandır.’’ olmalı ama düzeltemedim Bu cümle sanırım Peygamber Efendimizin bir Hadisi. Ama internette buna dair hiçbirşey bulamadım. Cümlenin orjinalini araştırıyorum.
 

7 September 2009 16:02  

kendin_ol_19
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This sentence is very value. It isn't a Turkish saying/proverb. The original sentence coming from Arabic. The Prophet Muhammad's Saying. I'm etymologizing.
 

7 September 2009 16:43  

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Have a look here, this is what we found about this proverb :

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17154855

 

7 September 2009 18:09  

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487
If you don't mind, maybe it could be in this less literal way:

The person, who speaks one language, is worth one person,
The person, who speaks two languages, is worth two people etc.
 

7 September 2009 19:11  

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
Thanks everyone
I think this version is fine now.
 

7 September 2009 19:15  

Aneta B.
Number of messages: 4487
You're welcome!
 

9 September 2009 23:11  

kendin_ol_19
Number of messages: 99
Can I rewrite my Translation Request? I have a little mistake.
‘’Bir dil bilen bir insan, iki dil bilen iki insan, üç dil bilen üç insandır.’’
 
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