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Basque
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Source language: English

Basque
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Title
Basku valodā
Translation
Laitvis

Translated by kali_kali
Target language: Laitvis

Basku valodā
Remarks about the translation
"Basku valoda" - "Basque language"
Validated by Francky5591 - 30 March 2010 23:23





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29 March 2010 20:11

durklis
Number of messages: 34
Although Latvian translation for "Basque" ("baskiski" was rendered in accordance with norms of Latvian grammar, it sounds awful. I suggest another translation - "Basku valodā" (literally - in Basque language).

30 March 2010 01:33

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Hi durklis, thanks for your input.

I trust you as a Latvian native speaker, but as you can see, all translations just mention the adjective that is relative to the language.

If we ever use "Basku valodā", it is going to be a bit different from the other versions, do you see what I mean? (Then we should use "In English language", "En langue française", "auf Deutsche Sprache", and so on...)

Do you agree with my argumentation, or is there something I wouldn't understand (eg : "baskiski" isn't used at all by a Latvian native speaker)?


CC: durklis

30 March 2010 22:48

durklis
Number of messages: 34
Dear Francky5591,

As a native Latvian speaker, I must tell you some lingustic reasons, why word "baskiski" is hardly acceptable.
It is only since XIX century that Latvians had formed adverbs relating to ethnonyms. The sufix '-isk-' that is related to Russian '-ск-' and German '-isch-', was not used for forming adjectives before. Where foreign language texts suggested usage of adverb relating to nationalities, Latvians used expression "... valodā" ("in ... language" or more archaic form "... mēlē" ("in ... tongue". It is only through influence of Russian and German languages that promoters of contemporary Latvian suggested usage of adverbs related to ethnonyms like another languages do.
However, not all ethnonyms are not suitable for making adjectives in Latvian. Some exotic ethnonyms are not subject for forming corresponding adverbs. For example, "Thai" (as adverb) should be translated "tajiešu valodā", as "tajiski" sounds bad and needs additional explanation. Moreover, if a word contain consonants "sk" in final syllable, they might be softened for making derivations. For example, from word "Bauska" (a city near border with Lithuania) Latvians had formed word "baušķenieks" (inhabbitant of Bauska). However, as consonants "sk" in word "baskiski" are met two times in following syllables, it sounds awful and suggest additional information what does the speaker of this word meant originally. The Institute of Latvian Language does not accept alternative noun "baskietis" and adverb "baskietiski" that sound better from the perspective of native Latvian speaker.
Latvians with good sense of languages would avoid word "baskiski". It is not of linguistic purism but from a perspective of better understanding of original idea that I asked to make a change. As not all lingustic things are met in every language, you should understand that my suggestion doesn't influence retaining corresponding renderings in languages which by rules of grammar allow a usage of adjective instead of construction of main word and explanatory subject.
I hope you had got a better understanding of the subject.

Best regards,

durklis

30 March 2010 23:22

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Good evening durklis.

Yes, I understand better now, thanks for your explanation! Moreover, as this translation is to be used in a possible Latvian interface of , I don't see any reason why we wouldn't follow your advice.

So I'll replace straight away this controversed "baskiski" with "Basku valodā"

Thanks a lot durklis, we are willing to respect the way native speakers use words in their mother-tongue on , and your input helped us a lot!

Best regards,

Franck.