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| 28 Octombrie 2010 21:31 |
| Hi Pia,
Is there any misspelling here? CC: pias |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 07:49 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | No, no misspellings, but I think it's hard to find a translation for "Bara inte". A literal translation would be "Just not" ... but that might sound weird in English.(?)
The meaning for this sentence is: "(I) hope the guards didn't/ never heard them". "I" could as well be: He/she/they or whoever it was
Maybe Lena or Pia can help? CC: lenab Piagabriella |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 12:01 |
| Could it be:
"Let's hope the guards didn't hear them"? |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 12:38 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | It's about something that happened in the past, a wish that the guards never heard them. But YES "Let´s" sounds right to me. |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 18:16 |
lenabNumărul mesajelor scrise: 1084 | I don't agree that it must have happened in the past. It could be wished for in present time, when someone is looking ahead.
If only the guards didn't hear them,("everything would be fine" or something) |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 18:24 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | But... "hörde" is past tense of "höra".
Anyway I think your beginnig "If only" is perfect |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 18:46 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | Aye.. you are right Lena, it could be wished for in present time, but the wish is for something that must have happened
I mean, They don't know if the guards heard them, but they wish they didn't. That's how I interpret the text anyway. |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 19:05 |
lenabNumărul mesajelor scrise: 1084 | Well, I rather see it as a subjunctive after a wish. |
| 29 Octombrie 2010 20:16 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | OK, but "hörde" can never be future. In that case it must be PAST subjunctive, right? |
| 2 Noiembrie 2010 07:55 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | Hej sprakportalen
Som du ser så pågår en diskussion hurvida meningen handlar om något som redan hänt eller om något som ligger i framtiden, svårt att avgöra med så lite text. Vore bra om du klargör det hela. |
| 4 Noiembrie 2010 14:30 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | No further reply from the requester, Lena or Pia... so don't know what to do here I guess since Lena is an English teacher -her words has to be the most trustable (even if I don't interpret the Swedish text the same way) |
| 4 Noiembrie 2010 15:04 |
gamineNumărul mesajelor scrise: 4611 | Hi Pia. Popping in as usual. Why not 'Just wish that the guards did not hear them'. |
| 4 Noiembrie 2010 17:03 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | Don't know Lene. I think Lena found a good start for the sentence. But you are right- that's in some way implicit in "bara inte" -a wish. What I don't agree with is the present tense "hear". Anyway... since the requester don't seem to care, I wonder why we do?
Thanks for popping in |
| 4 Noiembrie 2010 23:55 |
gamineNumărul mesajelor scrise: 4611 | |
| 5 Noiembrie 2010 08:15 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 | Lene
I'm not an English expert, but I thought "hear" was an irregular verb and the simple past would be "never heard them". Never thought about that "didn't"... sorry, guess I've to stand in the corner now. Im the confused one. Not you! |
| 5 Noiembrie 2010 13:44 |
gamineNumărul mesajelor scrise: 4611 | |
| 5 Noiembrie 2010 18:52 |
piasNumărul mesajelor scrise: 8114 |
You always try to support/ comfort Lene!!
THANKS |
| 7 Noiembrie 2010 19:44 |
| Ok, ladies...have you reached an agreement about the most suitable bridge for this line?
Or...do you think we should post Rule #7? |
| 7 Noiembrie 2010 21:57 |
lenabNumărul mesajelor scrise: 1084 | Never mind present or past, the translation could be If only/Let's hope/Lets pray/Let's wish - the guards didn't hear them.
"Hörde" is past tense OR subjunctive after a wish.(jfr. Bara du inte VORE så arg...)
But in English it has to be :"didn't hear them" |
| 8 Noiembrie 2010 01:07 |
gamineNumărul mesajelor scrise: 4611 | agree with Lena. |