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Traduzione - Η αγάπη είναι καθυστερημένη. (Greco)

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26 Gennaio 2008 18:59  

irini
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Question: "Love is retarded" means that love is ... mentally challenged? It is translated in Greek as "Love is late" but no amount of head scratching helps. I mean it IS possible to mean that, it just seems an odd choice of a participle.

CC: ahikamr Chantal dramati IanMegill2 ittaihen kafetzou samanthalee Tantine Una Smith
 

26 Gennaio 2008 19:40  

kafetzou
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I don't think it means "late" - I think it means "stupid".
 

26 Gennaio 2008 19:59  

Una Smith
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Maybe it is a joke? "retarded" can mean both late and stupid.
 

26 Gennaio 2008 20:39  

dramati
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Probably really means retarded. Love is blind as well. Probably along the same lines.
 

26 Gennaio 2008 22:20  

kafetzou
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David, when you say, "Probably really means retarded," it doesn't help the non-native speakers. They want to know which meaning of retarded it is.

irini, "retarded" is a word often used by children in North America to mean "stupid". This seems to me to be the most reasonable interpretation here.
 

27 Gennaio 2008 05:26  

ahikamr
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Just to let you know - the Hebrew translation says: Love is stupid. But then again, the Hebrew translator can't know for sure.
 

27 Gennaio 2008 09:14  

IanMegill2
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Yup, love is sure crazy all right -- that's what makes it so Wonderful...
 

27 Gennaio 2008 17:26  

kafetzou
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OHMIGOD, Ian - you're a hopeless romantic!
 

28 Gennaio 2008 00:20  

irini
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Thank you all so much! I think I found the perfect translation in Greek. Η αγάπη είναι καθυστερημένη. Kafetzoy, Mideia what do you think?
 

28 Gennaio 2008 00:42  

kafetzou
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I don't think that's correct, irini. It doesn't mean it's delayed - it means it's stupid. Sorry, if I didn't make that clear.
 

28 Gennaio 2008 01:09  

IanMegill2
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I guess you've been reading the poems on my website...
 

28 Gennaio 2008 03:17  

kafetzou
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Nope - just your post above. I'm a pragmatist myself, so I'm afraid it would not be, shall we say, my cup o' tea ...
 

28 Gennaio 2008 05:25  

IanMegill2
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Aw shucks, ya dont know whatcher missin...What's life without gettin yer heart broken every few years?

Well, I suppose there may be other ways of having a good time...
 

28 Gennaio 2008 06:09  

kafetzou
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28 Gennaio 2008 06:40  

dramati
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Roget's New Millenium Thesaurus gives some synonyms for retards as being: backward, birdbrained, defective, dim, dim-witted, dopey, dull, dumbbell, dumbo, dumdum, dummy, exceptional, feeble-minded, gorked, half-witted, held back, imbecile, lamebrained, mentally defective, moronic, numbskull, opaque, pinhead, retardo, sappy, simple, simple-minded, slow, slow-witted, stupid, subnormal, touched, underachieving, weak, yo-yo.

But I did notice that "exceptional" can be used in place of retarded. So you could say "love is exceptional".
 

28 Gennaio 2008 07:18  

kafetzou
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NO YOU CANNOT, dramati! That's totally not the meaning here. I don't know if you're messing around or what, but please try not to mislead people. When they say "exceptional" in this list they mean that euphemism that's used for mentally handicapped people sometimes.
 

28 Gennaio 2008 09:22  

dramati
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Well, maybe another would be "love is lamebrained?" To say love is retarded is really not it either...certainly not politically correct because of a whole spectrum of metally challenged people who have objected to that particular word "retarded". It would also not be in keeping with the general flow of the words to say that love is "mentally challenged" either...so a careful choice of a proper synonym would be in order here. Words can hurt as much as anything we can hurl at a person.
 

28 Gennaio 2008 09:27  

dramati
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So why not use the Greek: "translated in Greek as "Love is late" to make it Love is always late or love always comes late.
 

28 Gennaio 2008 09:29  

Mideia
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Η αγάπη είναι καθυστερημένη.I agree with that translation,it can cover both meanings, even though it goes more for stupid. And honestly I can't imagine why sb used retarded to caracterize love (I mean as stupid).So let's leave it that way.
 

28 Gennaio 2008 16:14  

kafetzou
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dramati, I'd really appreciate it if you'd stay out of this discussion. You're only confusing the issue. The source text is the English, so there's no point in discussing alternative words for the English adjective "retarded".

I have explained the word completely above in my 26 January 2008 22:20 post.

The word does NOT mean "late" in this context AT ALL.
 
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