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Catégorie :
Organismes - Organisation/association de défense
Description :
Collectif d'entraide de fans pour trouver un avocat pour réhabiliter l'image de Michael Jackson
Le complot contre Michael Jackson...
En novembre 2003 Michael Jackson était accusé par une famille d'un crime qu'il n'avait pas commis.
Lors du procès il a été démontré par des preuves que les accusations dont il a été la "victime" n'étaient que des mensonges.
Suite à cela Michael à été acquitté de tous les chefs d'accusation portés contre lui.
Malgré cela les médias continuent de le montrer comme un prédateur au public mal informé et ignorant.
A quoi sert la justice?....Pourquoi le verdict n'est-il pas pris en compte par l'opinion public ?
Les Arvizos et les Chandlers ont trainé Michael Jackson dans la boue, l'ont sali et lui ont fait subir des épreuves humiliantes, inhumaines et s'en tirent les mains propres.
S'il a été prouvé que ces gens-là mentaient il a été aussi prouvé qu'ils n'ont pas agi seuls...
Aux États-Unis c'est la personne accusée qui doit prouver son innocence, elle est donc d'office présumée coupable !
On peut donc accuser quelqu'un et s'en tirer sans conséquences.
C'est la porte aux dérives...
Dans les différentes affaires Jackson les accusateurs avaient un atout majeur...En effet ils ne risquaient rien à mentir et à calomnier Michael Jackson pour obtenir de l'argent !
On peut donc détruire la vie et l'image d'un être humain en toute impunité pour de l'argent !
Ces gens sont des criminels, Michael Jackson à été pour eux une proie et une vraie victime.
À la mort de Michael Jackson, Jordan Chandler accusateur de la première affaire sans doute rongé par les remords a reconnu dans la presse Américaine avoir menti sous la pression de son père attiré par l'appât du gain ...
Cette information très peu diffusée par les médias Français de façon délibérée !
L'opinion publique est dans l'ignorance totale !
Ce groupe a été créé pour créer un réseau afin de trouver un avocat qui nous aiderait à engager une procédure envers les personnes qui ont menti pour escroquer Michael Jackson.
Conscients de la difficulté à gagner un tel procès; le but est surtout d'appâter les médias autour de ce procès symbolique. Les médias parleront ainsi du premier procès engagé par un collectif mondial de fans, pour restaurer l'honneur de Michael Jackson.
Ainsi l'opinion publique serait changée au plus grand bonheur de nous tous.
Ce procès servirait d'exemple et dissuaderait d'éventuels "pique-assiettes" de détruire la vie d'une personnalité.
Ce groupe doit être diffusé et relayé par chacun d'entre vous ... PLUS il y aura de membres, PLUS les chances de trouver un avocat et de rendre la justice à celui qui à dédié sa vie à donner aux autres seront grandes, alors au boulot !!!
PS: toutes les aides sont bienvenues... Journalistes, avocats, juristes peuvent apporter leur concours. Merci ! | Uwagi na temat tłumaczenia | Anglais britannique ou américain
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Tłumaczone przez  Tzicu-Sem | Język docelowy: Angielski
Category:
Organizations - Defense Association
Description:
Group of fans for mutual help to find a lawyer to restore Michael Jackson's image.
The plot against Michael Jackson...
In November 2003 Michael Jackson was accused by a family of a crime he did not commit. During the trial the evidence proved that the accusations, of which he was the "victim", were nothing but lies.
After that, Michael was acquitted of all the crimes he had been accused of.
Despite that, the media continues to present him to the misinformed and ignorant public as a predator.
What purpose does justice serve? ... Why is the verdict not taken into account by the public opinion?
The Arvizos and the Chandlers dragged Michael Jackson into the mud, they denigrated him and made him experience humiliating, inhuman ordeals, getting away with their hands clean.
If it has been proved that those people were lying, it has also been proved that they didn't act alone...
In the United States it is the accused person who has to prove his/her innocence; thus, s/he is automatically presumed guilty!
Therefore, one can accuse someone without any consequences.
This is a door for abuse...
In the various cases Jackson's accusers had a major advantage... Indeed, they were risking nothing by lying and slandering Michael Jackson for money!
One can thus destroy the life and the image of a human being for money without being punished!
These people are criminals for whom Michael Jackson was prey and a true victim. On the death of Michael Jackson, Jordan Chandler, the accuser of the first case, probably devoured by remorse, admitted to the American press that he had lied under pressure from his father, who was driven by the lure of money...
This information was deliberately broadcast very little by the French media! Public opinion is in total ignorance!
This group was established in order to create a network to find a lawyer who would help us initiate proceedings against the people who lied to defraud Michael Jackson.
Recognizing the difficulty of winning such a case, the goal is mainly to attract the media around this symbolic trial. Thus, the media will talk about the first lawsuit initiated by a worldwide fan group to restore Michael Jackson's honour.
Thus, public opinion would change, to the benefit of us all.
This trial will serve as an example and will deter possible freeloaders from destroying the life of a famous person.
This group has to be promoted and relayed by each of you... The more members we have, the greater the chances will be of finding a lawyer and bringing justice to the one who dedicated his life to giving to others - let's get to work!!!
PS: Any help is welcomed... Journalists, lawyers, solicitors may provide their assistance.
Thank you!
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Ostatnio zatwierdzony albo edytowany przez kafetzou - 7 Listopad 2009 21:47
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6 Listopad 2009 13:00 | | | Lili,
May I ask you for a favour, if it's not too much a trouble? You mentioned that you made a few syntax corrections. I would like to know what they were to learn from my mistakes.
Thanks a million  | | |
6 Listopad 2009 13:17 | | | hum...I don't know if I can remember them, Tzicu 
But I can tell you that they were minor mistakes, nothing really serious  | | |
6 Listopad 2009 13:40 | | | Thank you everybody for your help, this text is very important to my mother, she would like it translated in every language. She is a real fan of Michael Jackson.
here is the group on facebook. CC: Freya gamine Francky5591 | | |
6 Listopad 2009 13:53 | | | Hi All,
Chapeau pour ce grand travail, si bien fait. Quelques suggestions mineures:
If it *had* been proved -> If it *has* been proved
it would've also been proved -> it has also been proved
[il n'y a ni passé antérieur ni subjonctif dans le texte français]
innitiated by a worlwide -> initiated by a worldwide
changed -> change
deter the possible "peak plates" which destroy -> deter possible spongers from destroying [un pique-assiettes is a colloquialism for a person who accepts invitations to dinner without intending to return the favour, Engish scrounger or sponger]
Tzicu-Sem: I have your original text on my pc. Would you like me to post it to you for comparison?
Best regards, Guido
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6 Listopad 2009 14:05 | | | Thanks Guido, I've edited using some of your suggestions. If you have the original translation, I'd like you to post it here. I really can't remember what was corrected. CC: gbernsdorff | | |
6 Listopad 2009 14:06 | | | Thanks Lili. Good no major mistakes:P
Dear gbernsdorff,
If you can, please post it. Thanks for all your input.
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6 Listopad 2009 15:11 | | | Here is the original translation:
Category:
Organisms - Organization/Association of Defense
Description:
Group of fans for mutual help to find a lawyer to restore Michael Jackson's image.
The plot against Michael Jackson...
In November 2003 Michael Jackson was accused by a family of a crime he did not commit. During the trial the evidence proved that the accusations, of which he was the "victim", were nothing but lies.
After that, Michael was acquitted of all the accusations against him.
Despite that, the media continues to present him to the misinformed and ignorant public as a predator.
Who does justice serve?..Why is the verdict not taken into account by the public opinion?
The Arvizos and the Chandlers dragged Michael Jackson into the mud, they denigrated him and made him experience humiliating, inhuman ordeals, getting away with their hands clean.
If it had been proved that those people were lying, it would've also been proved that they didn't act alone...
In the United States it is the accused person who has to prove his/her innocence; thus, s/he is automatically presumed guilty!
Therefore, one can accuse someone without any consequences.
This is a door for abuse.
In the various cases Jackson's accusers had a major advantege. Indeed, they were safe to lie and slander Michael Jackson for money!
Thus being able to destroy the life and the image of a human being for money without being punished!
These people are criminals for whom Michael Jackson was a prey and a true victim. On the death of Michael Jackson, Jordan Chandler, the accuser of the first case, probably devored by remorse, admitted to the American press that he had lied under the pressure from his father, who was driven by the lure of money...
This information was deliberately very little broadcasted by the French media!
The present group was established in order to create a network to find a lawyer who would help us initiate proceedings against the people who lied to defraud Michael Jackson.
Recognizing the difficulty of winning such a case, the goal is mainly to attract the media around this symbolic trial. Thus, the media will talk about the first lawsuit initiated by a worlwide fan group with purpose to restore Michael Jackson's honour.
By this, the public opinion would change to the delight of all of us.
This trial will serve as an example and will deter the possible "peak plates" which destroy the life of a personality.
This group has to be promoted and relayed by each of you... The more members, the more chances to find a lawyer and to bring justice to the one who dedicated his life to give others the great work!!!
PS: Any help is welcomed... Journalists, lawyers, solicitors may provide their assistance.
Thank you!
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6 Listopad 2009 15:22 | | | Hi Guido,
That's not the original translation, the first one submitted by Tzicu. This is the one that was set into the poll.
I don't remember ALL the corrections I made, but I clearly remember some of them.
For example:
Following that ---> After that
assumed as innocent ---> automatically presumed guilty
**** ----> The Arvizos and the Chandlers (I don't remember what was there, but I know I corrected that)
And some other small syntax adaptations.
Thanks, but what we wanted was the first one, before these edits.  | | |
6 Listopad 2009 15:27 | | | Hi Lilian, I didn't realize that, but alas, I can't help you there.
Guido | | |
6 Listopad 2009 15:30 | | | Thanks anyway, Guido. 
You helped a lot. | | |
7 Listopad 2009 02:19 | | | Organisms - Organization/Association of Defense --> Organizations - Defense Association
After that, Michael was acquitted of all the accusations against him. --> You cannot be acquitted of an accusation - you can only be acquitted of a crime, so I would say it as follows: "After that, Michael was acquitted of all the crimes he had been accused of."
Who does justice serve? --> What purpose does justice serve?
Indeed, they were safe to lie --> Indeed, they were risking nothing by lying
Thus being able to distroy --> One can thus destroy
was a prey --> was prey [not countable]
devored --> devoured
under the pressure --> under pressure
This information was deliberately very little broadcasted by the French media! --> This information [was] deliberately broadcast very little by the French media! [I put the verb in brackets because there is no verb in the French in this sentence.]
The present group --> This group
with purpose to --> in order to [or just "to"]
By this, the public opinion would change to the delight of all of us. --> Thus, public opinion would change, to the benefit of us all
will deter the possible "spongers" which destroy the life of a personality --> will deter possible freeloaders (I'm not sure about this one - it's a better word than spongers, and it means the same thing, but I don't know what "pique-assiètes" means) from destroying the life of a famous person
to give others the great work!!! --> ??? I don't understand the French here (the translator said the same thing), and the English doesn't work.
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7 Listopad 2009 02:36 | | | Note: I wrote the post above at turkishmiss's request, in case anyone is wondering. | | |
7 Listopad 2009 07:24 | | | | | |
7 Listopad 2009 09:13 | | | Hi Kafetzou,
We'd better bring this text back to evaluation...
Could you please take care of it? | | |
7 Listopad 2009 09:24 | | | Hi Lilian and Kafetzou,
For this sentence :
The more members, the more chances to find a lawyer and to bring justice to the one who dedicated his life to give others the great work!!!
I guess may be :
The more members, the more chances to find a lawyer and to bring justice to the one who dedicated his life to give others will be great, so let's work!!!
the meaning is : by having a lot of members we also have more chances to find a lawyer and to bring justice to the one who dedicated his life to give others.
"Alors au boulot" has the same meaning as "donc mettons nous au travail" I guess "so let's work" is the best way to express that. | | |
7 Listopad 2009 17:53 | | | OK, although it's hard to evaluate the translation without knowing how far the original one was from the one we finally accept. | | |
7 Listopad 2009 17:58 | | | Ah - I think I understand it now - the subject of "seront grandes" is "les chances", right?
"alors au boulot" should be "let's get to work" then.
How about "pique-assiettes"? What exactly does that mean? Are they people who always expect to get something for free, or are they more like pick-pockets - people who take from other people illegally? | | |
7 Listopad 2009 18:07 | | | pique-assiettes = scrounger/parasites | | |
7 Listopad 2009 20:48 | | | "Pique-assiettes" = they are people who always expect to get something for free. | | |
7 Listopad 2009 21:37 | | | OK then - "freeloader" is the right translation. |
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