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Aristophanes konnte in der Vertretern der Ueberwelt nichts anderes sehen, als drollige Typen eingebilter, im Grunde laengst vergangener Macht. | Παρατηρήσεις σχετικά με τη μετάφραση | My problem is the word "eingebildeter". I suppose it might means either fictitious or conceited, but I have a French translation that renders it "... manifestations d'un pouvoir cultivé mais, en réalité, depuis longtemps dépassé." What's "cultivé" got to do with "eingebildeter"? That's the question! Has the French translator a lot of eingebilter imagination? |
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| Aristophanes could only consider ... | | Γλώσσα προορισμού: Αγγλικά
Aristophanes could only consider the representatives of the overworld to be nothing but
amusing types, of conceited, essentially long-gone power. | Παρατηρήσεις σχετικά με τη μετάφραση | Sorry, Apple - I must've validated this one a bit too quickly. -- kafetzou |
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Τελευταία επικύρωση ή επεξεργασία από kafetzou - 18 Ιανουάριος 2007 14:43
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11 Ιανουάριος 2007 07:49 | | 
appleΑριθμός μηνυμάτων: 972 | Well, I thought "eingebildeter" was a genitive related to "Macht", such as "vergangener", so it should be something like :amusing characters of a conceited but basically long gone power.
By the way, I forgot a "de" in the first "eingebildeter", but wrote it right in the message. | | |
18 Ιανουάριος 2007 14:57 | | 
RumoΑριθμός μηνυμάτων: 220 |  Yes, you are right, "eingebildeter" refers to "Macht", which means "power" and not "world", by the way. I was worried for a few minutes until I found out where the "stuck" comes from. "Im Grunde" is a kinda set phrase for "basically, after all, in reality", i think that made the difficulty of the last part of the sentence.
Concerning the comment for the German source text: the French word "cultivé" means "gebildet", "eingebildet" is unfortunately something very different: it can mean both "imaginary, fictitious" and "conceited, vain".
Hope I could help, sorry I didn't see your message before now.
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19 Ιανουάριος 2007 04:17 | | | Okay, I'm back. I saw Apple's request to me for more comment. (Why don't I see my original comments? I am trying to remember what my original translation said...) A couple of points. I read "eingebilter" as a typo for "eingebildeter", no problem there. The problem I see in the original German (at least what was posted here) is the lack of a verb.
Eingebildeter is stuck up, conceited, etc. I think the French "cultivé" is an error.
Yes, you can parse "eingebil[de]ter, im Grunde laengst vergangener Macht" as a phrase, in which case it is "conceited, essentially long gone power" but then you are left with "amusing types, conceited ..." which is not grammatical nor does it make sense to me.
I confess to some improvisation in my translation.
Silk from a pigs ear, anyone?
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