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作为LEO公司的货代关于深圳至瑞典货物希望能与您协商。...
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作为LEO公司的货代,关于深圳至瑞典货物希望能与您协商。

上星期您的货物已经到达我们公司仓库,经顺利报关已经交至DHL仓库,等待上航班。后接到LEO通知还没收到您的货款,我们也没收到他们公司的货款,货物暂扣DHL仓库。昨晚接到LEO电话告之您想要换DB Schenker运输这批货物。但是我们现在需要取出货物十分繁琐,至少需要运送货物至香港,再由香港进口到深圳才可取出货物,所产生这笔费用是需要你们付给我们公司。
如果指定我们公司运送这批货物至瑞典,我可以申请最优惠价格:6.2USD/KG门到门全包价格给您(不含瑞典进口关税)。但是您需要先付款给我们公司。这种方式将是最合适的处理办法,希望您予以考虑。

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Concerning the cargo from Shenzhen to Sweden
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About LEO, Ltd.'s freight forwarder, I hope we can find a satisfactory solution concerning the cargo from Shenzhen to Sweden.
Your goods reached our company storehouse already last week, passed customs successfully and were transferred to the DHL warehouse, where they were scheduled to be airfreighted. Since then, we have been notified by LEO that they have still not received your payment for the goods, meaning that we would equally not receive any payment from them. The goods have therefore been temporarily detained in the DHL warehouse. Yesterday evening we received a phone call from LEO informing us that you are considering switching to DB Schenker to have this shipment transported. However, it will be extremely difficult for us to retrieve it. At best, we will have to transport the cargo to Hong Kong, and from there import it to Shenzhen – this is the only way for us to retrieve it. For the expense hereby incurred you would have to reimburse us. If you authorize our company to transport this load of goods to Sweden, I could offer a very favourable price for you: 6.20 US$/kg door-to-door for the lot (excluding Swedish customs duties). Nevertheless, you will have to reimburse us first for the incurred costs. This would be the most convenient way to proceed, and we hope that you will give this proposal some consideration.
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I am not sure what to make of the first sentence (zuowei....huo dai), I'd be delighted if someone could enlighten me as to what it really means. My translation (of this phrase) is almost certainly wrong.
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31 Март 2009 00:27

lilian canale
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Hi Ian, please?

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2 Апрель 2009 07:08

IanMegill2
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Hmmm... Small modifications?
---(text start)---
Regarding LEO, ltd.'s shipment payment, I hope we can find a satisfactory solution concerning the cargo from Shenzhen to Sweden.
Your goods reached our company storehouse already last week, passed customs successfully and were transferred to the DHL warehouse, where they now await airfreighting. Since then, we have been notified by LEO that they have still not received your payment for the items, meaning that we will not yet receive payment from them. The shipment has therefore been kept temporarily in the DHL warehouse. Yesterday evening we received a phone call from LEO informing us that you were considering switching to DB Schenker for transporting this shipment. However, at this point in time, it is now extremely difficult for us to retrieve it. At best, we would have to have the shipment sent to Hong Kong, and from there back to Shenzhen – this is the only way for us to retrieve it, and we would have to ask you to reimburse us for the expenses thereby incurred. On the other hand, if you authorize us to transport this shipment to Sweden, we could offer you a very favourable price: 6.20 US$/kg shipped door-to-door all-inclusive (except for Swedish customs duties). However, we first must ask you to remit payment for the shipment.
It seems to us that this would be the most convenient way to proceed, and we therefore hope that you will agree to our proposals.
---(text end)---
What do you think, lutzmartina?

1 Апрель 2009 23:19

cacue23
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I'm no good with economic terminology...

1 Апрель 2009 23:20

cacue23
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Sounds good though...

3 Апрель 2009 09:02

Imhotep
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我觉得“货代”是货运代理的意思吧,是不是“as the Freight forwarder of LEO company”?。拙见。

3 Апрель 2009 09:30

IanMegill2
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What do you think, Cacue: does 質代 refer to the payment for the goods, or to the person in charge of shipping?
Here in Japan we use 代 to refer to the "payment" for something all the time, but is that not the case in China?

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3 Апрель 2009 09:34

IanMegill2
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Hi lutzmartina,
Could I have your comments on the changes I made in my translation above?
I want to make sure that I properly understood the text, especially the part about the "shipping by DB Schenker"?

3 Апрель 2009 19:02

cacue23
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I think it's the person or department of a company that's in charge of shipping. But again, I'm no good with the business stuff...

4 Апрель 2009 08:17

lutzmartina
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Hi Ian and everyone else,

Thanks for the corrections. Sorry it took a while. I thought for hours about 代 as it is used in this text, and consulted a good amount of dictionaries, but the solution that Imhotep came up with seems plausible to me. I will give this some more research.
Ian,I notice you keep the translation closer to the original than I have. Where did you get the "ltd." from? Is that implied in the word 公司?

The 'shipping by DB Schenker' you got absolutely right. The text I had seemed to have a paragraph break between DB and Schenker, so I assumed it to be two different sentences and two different topics.

How much Chinese to English or German translation requests appear on this website, btw? I would really like something a bit more literary. Or I may not have found them yet. Any advice?
Can I post my own text and the translation as well?

Martina

4 Апрель 2009 14:01

IanMegill2
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Hi lutzmartina,
Yeah, I always try to stick as close to the original meanings in the text as possible.
(If there exist ways of saying the same things in the target language!)
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You're right of course, usually 公司 would be translated as "company" if you're just talking about it as a general noun, but in this case because it's affixed to the company name, i.e. LEO, I changed it to "Ltd." which is the way this kind of company would usually write their name in English.
As for the amount of translation available, I guess it's always just a question of checking in and seeing what comes up here...
You probably already know that you can get e-mail automatically sent to you whenever new translation requests appear which match these preferences?
Finally, as for the "代", I'll change it to Imhotep's suggestion and then validate the text now.
(They've probably gotten tired of waiting for it...)

4 Апрель 2009 14:11

IanMegill2
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PS: I wouldn't recommend posting a text and your own translation with it: the best idea would be to just post the text, and then wait for someone to translate it for you. Then you could use the discussion area under the text (i.e. here, in these boxes) to compare, and see if your version was better!
I don't think it would be fair to put up both text and translation: it's not really the way is set up to work...

5 Апрель 2009 04:34

lutzmartina
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Hi Ian, Imhotep, cacue23,

Imhotep's suggestion still seems the most plausible to me, however, there are some discrepancies in the text which I still cannot fathom.

For example, the goods are not from LEO, but, it seems to me, from the (unnamed) company which the writer is adressing. LEO just transported it part of the way.

This may be leading too far, I will spend another few hours thinking about it and see what I will come up with.

7 Апрель 2009 09:09

IanMegill2
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Yup.
That's why I thought it meant "the money (we have not yet received) from LEO for (your) shipment"
As I noted in a message above, we use "...代" all the time here in Japan to mean "payment for..." and it indeed seems to make the best sense here, because as you say, he's not writing to LEO's shipper, he's writing to get the money for the shipment from the company that originally ordered it, and he's trying to make sure that shipment by DHL as they had planned, would be okay?
Those two points seem indeed to be the main thrust of the whole letter, and the "作為" seems to me to work as a "Re:" here, to inform the recipient of the essence of the communication to follow...
But I'm not confident of my Chinese abilities: I've never lived in China, nor read many of these kinds of business letters...

9 Апрель 2009 06:34

lutzmartina
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Yes, business letters are not my forte, either. Well, I suppose the text is ok as it is, and without input from the writer of the text we won't know what exactly was intended. I have drawn diagrams of the relationships between the different parties involved, but I cannot see a clear solution. Such letters are, I presume, often written in a rush, and information may be presumed as known to both sender and addressee, but is hard to fathom to the translator.
Well, thanks for evaluating my maiden translation here.

9 Апрель 2009 08:01

IanMegill2
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My pleasure! I look forward to more!