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16 Tháng 12 2010 11:39 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | Yes, poetic language can be very tricky, I think you did a great job! 'she is not this' I changed into 'this is not her'. Another possibility I can think of would be 'this is not who (or what) she is' but that sounds a bit too long to fit in wiith the rest of the text. Let me know if you don't agree! Meanwhile I'll set a poll  |
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16 Tháng 12 2010 15:54 |
| | Hi Çevirmen,
Please read "Remarks about the translation".
"O" is not always "she". Sometimes it is the heart. For example;
Line 2 "she knows this."...> Your heart knows this
according to Remarks.
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16 Tháng 12 2010 15:28 |
| | Shouldn't every line start with caps? |
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16 Tháng 12 2010 15:55 |
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17 Tháng 12 2010 03:45 |
| | The second line of the poem(or whatever) should be
"his heart knows this" as merdogan said before.
Thanks merdogan again, you are a life saver=) |
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17 Tháng 12 2010 13:27 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | 'your heart', 'her heart' or 'his heart'? |
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18 Tháng 12 2010 15:26 |
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according to Remarks.
She knows this…..> Your heart knows it
I cannot leave her alone...> I can’t leave her heart alone’
I will not leave her alone...> I will not leave her heart alone
They tell lies...> They lie
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17 Tháng 12 2010 23:38 |
| | Hi!
Good work Çevirmen
I was wondering if it should be "tell the lie" or "tell a lie"?
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18 Tháng 12 2010 18:39 |
| | Hi Lein, Merdogan and Bilge.
&Lein,
her heart, since it is written for a girl by a boy.
&Merdogan
when we look at source text, it is not specified as kalbin or kalbi, That's why, using 'it' is the best option here.
&Bilge
tell a lie = yalan söyledi(singular)
tell the lie = yalan söyledi (again singular but lie is known here)
Thanks.. |
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22 Tháng 12 2010 18:20 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | I think I can almost accept the translation
I'm just not quite sure about a few things.
Merdogan said line 2 should read ' your heart knows this'. Çevirmen replied and said that Merdogan was right, but then said that it should be ' his heart knows this'. I asked which one it should be, but I think Çevirmen misunderstood and he replied it should be ' her heart' What should it really be? 
The suggestions Merdogan made in his second post don't sound as good in English as your original translation. I think they are probably too literal and we should keep your translation.
As for 'the lie' or 'a lie', just looking at the English text, Bilge Ertan is right - in English, you can't really say 'the lie'. If it is clear for everyone what lie you are talking about, it could be 'this lie' or 'that lie'; normally, this would be 'a lie' (can't lie = can't tell a lie'. Is it ok if I change the -> a ? Sorry, it had escaped my attention earlier... |
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26 Tháng 12 2010 17:17 |
| | Dear Lein,
If we look at source text, they are;
She knows this
I cannot leave her alone
I will not leave her alone
but according to Remarks they are ;
She knows this…..> Your heart knows it
I cannot leave her alone...> I can’t leave her heart alone
I will not leave her alone...> I will not leave her heart alone
Therefore I think to write this second part in the remarks field will be good.
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5 Tháng 1 2011 17:12 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | Hi Çevirmen
Could you help me out here please? Have a look at my last post and let me know what it should be. Thanks! |
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6 Tháng 1 2011 22:06 |
| | The current translation is correct -except few mistakes. Yet, according to the remarks the requester made, the translation needs to be edited almost all over again.
Çevirmen, Merdogan is right, please be careful about the "remarks about the translation" field; it gives much more specific information about the way the translation should be made.  |
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11 Tháng 1 2011 16:22 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | Hmm. Çevirmen, as I can't read the remarks, could you have another look at this text please? One option would be to place a literal translation in the translation field (I think that is what you have done) and a translation based on the remarks in the remarks field. Is that possible?
Sorry this is taking so long! |
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19 Tháng 1 2011 11:33 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | No reply 
handyy, could you help? I think we have two options:
1. keep this translation and add an alternative translation in the comments field, explaining why the two are different;
or
2. put this translation in the comment field and add another one in the translation field, again explaining why.
Alternatively, I can reject the translation.
What would you say?
Thanks  |
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19 Tháng 1 2011 14:22 |
| | I prefer first one.
please "CC" handy. |
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21 Tháng 1 2011 12:55 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | Hi Bilge,
The translator and handyy are not replying
Could you help here? Have a look at the discussion above... CC: Bilge Ertan |
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21 Tháng 1 2011 18:55 |
| | Hi Lein
Oh, I accept that it is difficult for you, but keep cool Let's take a look at what SametOzdemir mentioned about the text.
1) He says that in the second line he means "Your heart knows this". But there's a confusing detail here, the text is not written by using you, it is talking about the third person singular. But we need to consider the comments so we'd better change this sentence like this : As your heart knows this I added "as" because "ya" means "as" here.
2) In fact this is "I can't leave her heart alone (because it is bleeming)" but I think it would be more meaningful if we don't change this part of the translation.
3) The same about the sentence I will not leave her alone,I think we shouldn't change this either.
Tell me if there's still something unclear. |
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24 Tháng 1 2011 11:10 |
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LeinTổng số bài gửi: 3389 | Thanks a lot! I have made the edit in the second line. Many different opinions about this translation! As you have looked at the translation, the original and the remarks, I trust it is ok now. Thanks again |
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24 Tháng 1 2011 21:35 |
| | You're always welcome dear Lein |
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