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Dịch - Portuguese brazilian-Hebrew - João e Maria

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Title
João e Maria
Text
Submitted by Francky5591
Source language: Portuguese brazilian

João e Maria
Remarks about the translation
Pesquisei muito para achar essa tradução mas não consegui por isso gostaria que alguem traduzi-se para mim esses nomes pois são dos meus pais ja falecidos e vou usar em uma homenagem a eles

Title
ז'ואאו ו מריה
Dịch
Hebrew

Translated by Angelus
Target language: Hebrew

ז'ואאו ו מריה
Validated by ittaihen - 22 Tháng 12 2007 02:39





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12 Tháng 10 2007 02:35

Angelus
Tổng số bài gửi: 1227
Hello Francky; the names you need

12 Tháng 10 2007 06:53

Francky5591
Tổng số bài gửi: 12396
Hello, Angelus, are you sure these names in Hebrew are right transliteration from "João e Maria", because I can read a few Hebrew, and " יוחנן"reads "iornan", and "מרים " reads "marim"...
I'll wait for the Hebrew expert's opinion before validating your translation.

I personaly would have writen "יוֹהוֹן ו מריה" for
"João e Maria", but I'm not sure the final "nen" ("nen sofi"has to be writen for "João", although the Portuguese tilde involves some kind of nasal sound...
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Ittai, please could you help us to transliterate these Portuguese names? Toda raba!

12 Tháng 10 2007 06:55

Francky5591
Tổng số bài gửi: 12396
Oh? forgot the cc!
So Ittai, please could you help us and tell wether this transliteration into Hebrew from "João e Maria" is good? Thanks a lot!

CC: ittaihen

12 Tháng 10 2007 15:19

Angelus
Tổng số bài gửi: 1227
Francky, I've seen the name João in Wikipédia.
and the name Maria I've seen here.

This second link I gave you you can check for the Hebrew version..
Now I am not sure if it is really right!

12 Tháng 10 2007 21:35

Francky5591
Tổng số bài gửi: 12396
פרנק
This is my first name in Hebrew, it
means "Franck", it doesn't mean "Ephraïm", this is the real sound of my real name, not what my name was like some two or three thousand years ago, so I really do not see why "João" should read "Yohanan", and "Maria" should read "Mariam". And (this is the reason why I'm definitely opposed to "translations" of names) as I said maybe a thousand times (ok, ok, a dozen of times lol!), I, "Franck" travelling to Israel, am Franck when in Israel, not "Ephraïm". I've been there and I swear that when I signed my name in Hebrew on a document, I signed with the above first name.
And when I went to England, my first name didn't become "Frank", it still was "Franck", and when I travelled to Germany, my name wasn't "Franz", it still was (and is) Franck. The concept of "translations" of names is sooo stupid! you are given a name when you were born, it is for life.
OK, in Israel, when you emigrate, you're given an Hebrew name, and OK, if I do something wrong and do not want to be punished by law, I can also go to the Foreign Legion (Légion étrangère) and register upon a fantasy name, if I am an actor and if my name doesn't sound too good to producers because it isn't enough comercial, I'll switch with another name, like "Francky Feijoada"..
You'll have guessed it, this is why I'm so glad these "translations" of names disappear from cucumis, the concept of it being far too stupid to make any sense...
But anyway, the Hebrew experts will validate or not this translation, it is up to them, but I'll have expressed what I think about "translations" of names...

12 Tháng 10 2007 23:07

Angelus
Tổng số bài gửi: 1227
Hahahaha You're definitely right פרנק!!!

Well, I've never been to Israel and I'm wondering how would they call me there?

13 Tháng 10 2007 10:52

Francky5591
Tổng số bài gửi: 12396
Maybe "Little Teddy bear" in Hebrew?

14 Tháng 10 2007 14:33

ittaihen
Tổng số bài gửi: 98
hi Franckie
This is quiet a uniqe aplly.
basicly maria is miriam Johan is Yokhanan (is this what Joao menas in portugeez?) nevertheless, you do have a point - no point translating those names. my Fathers is Yossi and he never change it to Joseph in Eng. or to Yusuf in Arab.
Thus - maria is
מריה
and i'm not sure how to pernounce Joao, I'd assume it's
ז'ואאו
not sure though

Regards, Francky
Ittai

14 Tháng 10 2007 15:25

Francky5591
Tổng số bài gửi: 12396
Thanks a lot Ittai; I'll edit with ז'ואאו and מריה
and after that, when someone will ask for some translation of names, as we decided not to accept them anymore, s/he will have to tell why, and we'll decide wether the translation request is to be removed or accepted.

We'll certainly keep the requests about meaning of the name, but about any other transliteration request without any comment it will be removed.

So Ittai, it would be great, next time, that any member or expert seing one request for a translation of name notifies it by using the "I want an admin to check this page" button.

Toda raba Ittai, shavua tov!