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翻译 - 意大利语-英语 - Niente brucia da solo当前状态 翻译
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“Niente brucia da solo†prende in esame il concetto di combustione visto come motore dell’attività industriale. La volontà è quella di far riflettere il pubblico sul tema del facile consumismo, dello spreco, del profitto a tutti i costi. Come suggerisce il titolo, l’opera vuole far prendere coscienza della propria responsabilità verso il degrado (non solo ambientale e morale) che le leggi del mercato, oggi spinte all’estremo, implicano, e vuole inoltre invitare l’individuo a una maggiore consapevolezza delle proprie scelte. Se è vero che il tanto abusato concetto di globalizzazione sta permeando sempre di più le nostre vite, allora sembra necessaria una nuova coscienza di massa del consumo, fatta di rinunce, di “scioperi†e di alternative, grazie alla quale riequilibrare le parti in gioco. | | Artwork by GL “Niente brucia da solo†is the title of a multimedia artwork. Since this translation may be very difficult, I'd like this translation to be evaluated by a English native speaker (e.g. Kafetzou). Thank you! |
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| “Nothing burns up by itself†| | 目的语言: 英语
“Nothing burns up by itself†takes into consideration the concept of combustion seen as the mover of industrial activity. Its purpose is to make the audience reflect upon the subject of easy consumerism, waste, profit at all costs. As its title suggests, this work intends to make people aware of their own responsibility for the decay (which is not only environmental and moral) entailed by market laws, nowadays carried to extremes, and intends as well to invite individuals to become more conscious of their own choices. If it is true that the abused concept of globalization is permeating our lives more and more, so what appears to be necessary is a new mass consciousness of consumption, consisting of renunciation, “strikes†and alternatives, by which the roles may be brought back into balance. |
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最近发帖 | | | | | 2007年 五月 19日 17:21 | | | I found this on my dictionary for riequilibrare:
to re-balance, to re-equilibrate, to redress (also econ.)
Ex: to re-balance (or to adjust) the scales; to redress the foreign debt; to redress the balance of payments.
And this for riequilibrarsi (riflessive or impersonal, it may be translated by the passive form)
Ex: to reach an equilibrium; to return to normality; the forces at play have reached equilibrium; Once the fear had passed, the situation returned to normality.
Is this verb the only problem or the whole sentence is?
I changed the construction of the last sentence, word to word it should be:
thanks to whom re-equilibrating the parties at play. | | | 2007年 五月 19日 17:27 | | | Actually, it's the whole phrase: Maybe "bring the ??? back into balance"? But what are "the parties at play"? I guess it means human beings and natural resources, but it's not clear to me. | | | 2007年 五月 19日 17:36 | | | That's the problem: it's not very clear in Italian either. Maybe it means industrial activity, market and consumerism versus natural resources.
Xiniiiiiii!!!!!!!!!! | | | 2007年 五月 21日 07:53 | | | Both interpretations are right.
But the translation of the title should be "Nothing burns down by itself" (try to google the two sentences). | | | 2007年 五月 21日 13:43 | | | What I saw on google is that what you propose is not an original title at all!!!(is it on purpose, I mean, are you playing that particular music or what?)
Anyway, I would like very much to understand the difference between "to burn up" and "to burn down".
As for the last phrase...???
| | | 2007年 五月 21日 14:51 | | | Music? This is not a piece of music, it's an interactive installation.
The title was on purpose, it is a kind of motto.
I want to know the difference as well.
My MacOsX built-in Oxford Dictionary:
burn something down (or burn down) (of a building or structure) destroy or be destroyed completely by fire.
burn up 1 (of a fire) produce brighter and stronger flames. 2 (of an object entering the earth's atmosphere) be destroyed by heat. burn someone up informal make someone angry : his thoughtless remarks really burn me up. burn something up • use up the calories or energy provided by food, rather than converting these to fat:: in the typical Western diet, all the energy in protein is burned up daily. | | | 2007年 五月 21日 15:27 | | | Well, needless to say, I agree with Oxford. So the title should be "burns up" (def'n 2), not "burns down", because the thing that's burning here is not a building. I changed it back. | | | 2007年 五月 21日 15:33 | | | Hmm, I'm not sure...
it's not an object entering the atmosphere
it's not anyone
it's not dealing with food
but is a "virtual" building (metaphor).
Moreover, the Italian title was chosen by translating the English motto. | | | 2007年 五月 21日 15:43 | | | No, no, no - maybe Oxford didn't explain it so well. You can only use "burn down" for a physical structure - it gives the idea of something tall burning until there is nothing physical left (so it goes down). "Burn up" on the other hand simply means "burn completely". | | | 2007年 五月 21日 15:47 | | | What English motto?
Oh - I see now - what did we use to do before google?
This anarchist slogan is about burning down buildings! | | | 2007年 五月 21日 16:41 | | | Down with consumerism! Down with corporations! | | | 2007年 五月 21日 17:16 | | | Yes, maybe it was an anarchist slogan but now it seems to be used in many no-global campaigns.
Can't it be used in a metaphorical way?
Since the original motto is "Nothing ever burns down by itself - every fire needs a little help", I'd like to keep it. Does this sound weird for a native speaker, Lau ? | | | 2007年 五月 22日 04:06 | | | I don't know, Xini - it loses its power as a play on words in English, because combustion is "burning up", not "burning down". I think it's better as "burns up" - if people know the slogan, they'll make the connection and think it's kind of cute. | | | 2007年 五月 22日 05:11 | | | I hope the discussion of "burns up" and "burns down" has not made us forget that we still have a problem with "by which the interplay of the roles might be redressed". I cannot accept this translation until this phrase is fixed. | | | 2007年 五月 22日 13:55 | | | OK, then, let's talk about "by which the interplay of the roles might be redressed". Xini was not very helpful on this point. You were suggesting "to bring (the parties at play) back to balance", but we stopped on...the parties at play. It sounds a little indefinite in Italian too, if that's your worry. I don't think the conflict is between human beings and natural resources, but between human beings and a human way of life (including protection of the natural environment and resources) and market and and a way of life ruled by market (consumerism). | | | 2007年 五月 22日 14:01 | | | The interpretation is kind of open.
The parties at play may be any of all you said, but mainly is the conflict between consumerism and nature that the installation wants to point out.
| | | 2007年 五月 22日 16:20 | | | OK - how about "by which the roles may be brought back into balance"?
Actually, I like this - it sounds very good in English. | | | 2007年 五月 22日 17:10 | | | I like it too, Kafetzou. Thanks. | | | 2007年 五月 22日 17:13 | | | Thanks everybody - nice teamwork! | | | 2007年 五月 22日 21:19 | | | Thank you very much App and Lau... |
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