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2012년 8월 5일 01:27  

Lev van Pelt
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...Is there anybody here?...

No. Being Nemo, there is nobody. Of course!
 

2012년 8월 5일 12:00  

alexfatt
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We have two members who can read both Latin and Ancient Greek, let's ask them if they think the translation is right.

CC: Aneta B. Efylove
 

2012년 8월 5일 12:01  

alexfatt
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Ah, Aneta took some days off, so she will not answer soon...
 

2012년 8월 6일 02:38  

Lev van Pelt
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Many thanks, Alex!

I had become a little impatient about this translation because --even if I rely very much on your skill in ancient Greek; do not keep, please, any doubt about this!-- I want to be entirely sure before carving those words in a piece of very fine wood (of which I own a single sample, and would never find a replacement!)

My best regards!
 

2012년 8월 6일 18:54  

alexfatt
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Cap problema Lev
Four eyes are better than two, we say in Italy!
 

2012년 8월 6일 22:58  

Lev van Pelt
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Ho pots dir també en català (aquí és una frase força emprada) :

"Quatre ulls hi veuen més que dos"

Salutacions!
 

2012년 8월 12일 23:15  

Aneta B.
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Hi guys!
I know " εἰμί" can behave as enclitic, but I'm not sure if we can leave the accent in here:
εἰμι-->εἰμί?
 

2012년 8월 12일 23:23  

Aneta B.
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Well, after long thinking I believe it can be enclitic here (so, no accent!). My ancient Greek is just disapearing...

You did excellent job, Alex!
Lev, you can trust the translation.

 

2012년 8월 13일 01:19  

alexfatt
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I seem to remember than "εἰμι" does not need accents if the previous word is stressed on the last syllable... Does it?
 

2012년 8월 13일 11:50  

Aneta B.
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Yes, this is what I tried to say. εἰμί is so-called "enclitic" so it looses its accent if a previous word is stressed on the last syllable.
 

2012년 8월 13일 14:48  

alexfatt
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I've never succeeded in learning all those terms like "enclitic", "clitic" and "proclitic"... Too difficult to remember what is what
 

2012년 9월 4일 21:47  

alexfatt
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Ok, there's another member who can read Ancient Greek...

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Hi Christina!

My translation is intended to mean "I am nobody" in Ancient Greek (a quote from the Odyssey, from Polyphemus-Ulysses dialogue). Is it correct?

Many thanks in advance!

CC: User10
 

2012년 9월 5일 12:57  

User10
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Hi Alex!

a) Yes, you are right, "εἰμι" it's enclitic here.

b) If you want to translate the quote from Odyssey, I strongly believe you should use the original phrase "Οὖτις ἐμοὶ γ' ὄνομα" (My name is Nobody). It's important to show how Cyclops got confused with the word "Οὖτις" which sounds a bit like "Odusseus" (Ulysses in Greek).

c) if you want to say "I am nobody- I am nothing- Of no importance" I believe "οὐδέν εἰμι" sounds more natural.

 

2012년 9월 5일 15:26  

alexfatt
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I believe that using the original phrase is the best!
Thanks a lot, Christina
 

2012년 9월 7일 22:53  

Lev van Pelt
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Gracias a todos vosotros (¡Alex el primero!) por el interés en esta petición mía, ya antigua...
Creo que la intervención de User 10 (Christina, según veo) es ya decisiva.
Sí. Lo que yo quería conocer ante todo es la cita original, del propio Homero. Lo que ya no sé es si "Ego Nemo sum" valdría como traducción latina de "Οὖτις ἐμοὶ γ' ὄνομα" = "Mi nombre es "Nemo""... Puede que no

¡No obstante, validad esto ya, Christina, Aneta y Alex! ¡Y muchísimas gracias de nuevo a todos! ¡Gracias de corazón!

Lev van Pelt
 

2012년 9월 7일 23:07  

alexfatt
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The literal translation of "Οὖτις ἐμοὶ γ' ὄνομα" into Latin would be "Mihi nomen est Nemo", which means "My name is Nobody"

@Franck, could you please validate my translation when you have time?



CC: Francky5591
 

2012년 9월 7일 23:15  

Francky5591
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done!
 

2012년 9월 7일 23:26  

alexfatt
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Merci beaucoup, our dear boss!
 

2012년 9월 7일 23:46  

Lev van Pelt
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Gracias mil from Lev aussi; caro&franco Boss…
(And ahora même io will be banned ici, und d'ici poc.)
Petons a tutti quanti. Ich am très obrigado.

 

2012년 9월 7일 23:42  

alexfatt
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Le tuo comentario puzzles mon cabeza
 
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