번역 - 영어-그리스어 - Where the world meets as one.

Νομίζω ότι στα Ελληνικά θα προσθέταμε ένα "εδώ" ή ένα "εκεί". Κατά τα άλλα έξοχη μετάφραση δεδομένου ότι δεν γνωρίζουμε το ευρύτερο περιεχομενο. Αλλιώς, μπορεί το "meets" να μεταφράζεται αλλιώς αλλά δεν είναι δική μας δουλειά, ούτε φυσικά του μεταφραστή, να κάνουμε την Πυθία.

Would you like to leave this message in English? Since it is important for me to know what is your comment.

Thank you very much.

Hi reigzoz,

irini suggested to add a word (εκεί) so that it would sound more natural in Greek (we added that word now). She also said that the translation is perfect but it would be nice if we could have more contect in order to understand the exact meaning of "meets" in this sentence. Is that possible?

Hi user10, thank you for your kind reply.

My context in this case is for a company motto. We have guests and clients coming in to our company for services from all over the world.

So in this case, I would like to stress the meaning of people coming together as one to our property to enjoy our services.

Hope that helps.

reignzoz, thank you for your reply.

Context is very important for a translation to be done correctly, and must always be mentioned.

I'll ask glavkos to adapt his translation according to your information and then I'll evaluate it.

glavko, τώρα έχουμε το ακριβές πλαίσιο που αναφέρεται η πρόταση. Θα ήθελες να προσαρμόσεις την μετάφραση σου; Θα πρότεινα: "Εδώ όπου ο κόσμος συναντιέται και γίνεται ένα" . Τι λέτε;

CC: glavkos irini

Εντάξει. ..Δεν έχω αντίρρηση. Ας το αλλάξουμε. Ότι θέλει ο πελάτης αν και δεν είναι αυτό το αρχικό κείμενο.

glavko, με συγχωρείς αλλά δεν κατάλαβα, έχεις αντίρρηση τελικά ή δεν έχεις;
Και τι εννοείς " Ότι θέλει ο πελάτης" ; Ποιος πελάτης; Πουλάει κανείς προϊόν εδώ και δεν το ξέρω; Διαθέτουμε όλοι χρόνο και κόπο με μόνο αντάλλαγμα τη δική μας ευχαρίστηση. Σκοπός είναι βγει μια όσο το δυνατόν πιστότερη και σωστότερη μετάφραση.

Εντός του πλαισίου που έδωσε ο reignzoz θεωρώ ότι το " Where the world meets as one" μπορεί να μεταφραστεί πιο συκεκριμένα. Έκανα την πρόταση μου ( "Εδώ όπου ο κόσμος συναντιέται και γίνεται ένα" γιατί νομίζω ότι το "meets" παίζει με δυο σημασίες εδώ) και ζήτησα τη δική σου και της Ειρήνης που είναι ειδικός και για τ'αγγλικά. Δεν έχεις λοιπόν παρά να κάνεις κι εσύ την πρόταση σου λαμβάνοντας υπ'όψη το γνωστό πλέον πλαίσιο και την πρωτότυπη φράση.


CC: glavkos

Συμφωνώ με την πρότασή σου. Απλώς έκανα ένα αστείο. Μην με παρεξηγείς.

"Εδώ όπου ο κόσμος συναντιέται και γίνεται ένα"

Probably it will be easier for the discussion if I made the context much clearer than what I have explained.

The service that I was talking about is hotel meetings. We have guests from different companies holding regular meetings in our hotel. They may come from different countries all at one time. While holding the meetings, they may also check in at our hotels for the night and use our hotel facilities as well.

So in this case, I would like to convey the message of; no matter where you come from, everyone will gather in our hotel for their meeting needs.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

Ειρήνη, θα μας πεις σε παρακαλώ κιεσύ τη γνώμη σου;

CC: irini

OK let's see: If length is not a problem, the "Εδώ όπου ο κόσμος συναντιέται και γίνεται ένα" ("Here, where the world meets and becomes one" being a very literal translation) works just fine.
If however, it being a motto, we need something shorter? Hmmm. Tricky. I don't think we can't do better that a slightly edited form of glavkos' translation: "Εδώ όπου ο κόσμος γίνεται ένα" (lit. "Here where the word becomes one".

Reignzoz if you don't think that any of these really works tell us so we can scratch our heads a bit more

Thanks for all the help guys, appreciate it.

irini, is it better to not have the "Here"? I prefer it that way. Or is it more appropriate to have it as part of a sentence in Greek?

And the meaning of "becomes one", does it have similar meaning as "meets as one"?

If let's say I follow "Εδώ όπου ο κόσμος συναντιέται και γίνεται ένα", would the "meets" and "becomes one" seem to have the same meaning and become redundant?

Hello reignzoz,

First of all I am going to confuse things a bit more by asking the others what they think of "Εδώ (όπου) ο κόσμος ανταμώνει ως ένα". It could be that only I like it though

I'm afraid that the "here" part is necessary for more natural sounding Greek. We can cut out the "where" though (sort of like "Here the world meets as one".

As for the "meet" and "become". The thing is, the equivalent of "meet" in Greek carries ONLY the meaning of coming upon someone, coming at the same place as others, that sort of thing. You know, the same as "I will meet you at the street corner" kind of thing. It cannot therefore "encompass" the meaning of "joining".

On the other hand, you could very well go with the "become" part only (glavkos' idea) since it is obvious from context that people do meet each other.

I'm afraid I'm not helping you much am I?

I agree with "Εδώ (όπου) ο κόσμος ανταμώνει ως ένα" .

Yes, is more appropriate to have "here" as part of the Greek sentence.

As irini said the equivalent of "meet" in Greek doesn't mean " to become one".