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| | 6 September 2012 14:20 |
| | I'm afraid that this translation (because of the original text itself) is really difficult, gamine; at least in some details.
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| | 6 September 2012 15:01 |
| gamineNumber of messages: 4611 | I agree, Lev, but a native expert should be able to manage - at least I hope. |
| | 9 September 2012 12:26 |
| | Apart from those missing words that Vesna J. and Merdogan have pointed out: „ihrer Kollegen oder Kinder†(and this is important), I would change:
für andere Tage => für einen anderen Tag
der Welt => die übrige Welt (or maybe "übrigen"...; I'm unsure about this.)
Finally, even if there are other possible, more literal ways of phrasing the text (or so it seems to me), I agree with Rick that the translation says, well said, what it has to say.
[I'm not a native speaker, gamine, as you well know ... Just trying to help a bit if I can, and if possible.].
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| | 9 September 2012 14:45 |
| gamineNumber of messages: 4611 | Hello Lev. You may not be native neither am I but here I do agree with you again.
für andere Tage => für einen anderen Tag
der Welt => die übrigeN Welt ..
I don't think we need other changes now, but like you, I'm not native.
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| | 9 September 2012 18:56 |
| | I would make the changes you have all suggested, but I no longer have access to the translation, as it "is being evaluated", but it has been this way for a long time. |
| | 9 September 2012 19:18 |
| gamineNumber of messages: 4611 | Dear Kafetzou. I have edited the translation. Let me know if I have forgot something. |
| | 9 September 2012 20:31 |
| | Actually, I don't understand why it should be "mit die übrigen Welt", and not "mit der übrigen Welt". Can someone please explain this?
Also, you missed one:
für einen anderen Tag gebrauchen --> für einen anderen Tag in der Woche gebrauchen |
| | 10 September 2012 00:21 |
| gamineNumber of messages: 4611 | Hello Kafetzou. Sorry, had forgot a part of it. Have edited.
What's concerns "die" or "der" you make me unsure.
Actually, 'the world" is 'die Welt' in German but have checked it again and it seems that 'Der Welt" can be used too.
I pointed out that I'm no native. Just tried to help a bit.
And of course I can be wrong. |
| | 11 September 2012 04:48 |
| | Hello Kafetzou and Lene,
According to my German dictionary, which I've checked now, both ways are valid: "die Welt" and "der Welt". Of course, with a slightly different meaning depending on the gender used; but both are compatible here.
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| | 10 September 2012 00:41 |
| | How can that be? "mit" is a preposition and it changes the case of the noun phrase that follows it. The gender of "Welt" is still feminine, but the case is different.
Anyway, it seems that we REALLY need a German native speaker to help us out here!!! CC: nevena-77 italo07 iamfromaustria |
| | 10 September 2012 00:47 |
| | Actually, I'm certain it's "mit der übrigen Welt" - here's an example: http://www.kidsgo.de/kritische-wochen/erste-wochen-schwangerschaft.php - "Teilen Sie Ihr Glück mit der ganzen Welt". |
| | 10 September 2012 00:49 |
| | For gamine:
http://german.about.com/library/blcase_sum.htm |
| | 10 September 2012 01:01 |
| gamineNumber of messages: 4611 | Thanks Kafetzou.
But tell me, have I done anything wrong by trying to help.
I don't think so.
You are right here, I agree.
But our german experts don't reply and there is no rule saying that we are not allowed to TRY to help.
I did my best and I was not the only one.
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| | 10 September 2012 01:47 |
| | @kafetzou;
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-38936677.html
(But that's a wrong argument. I realize!...)
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| | 10 September 2012 01:25 |
| | ... Anyway, if it is "mit der übrigen Welt", as you defend, kafetzou, I adhere to Lene's words: we just tried to help to get this poll out the mud in which it was
No harm intended. And no harm done, most probably .
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| | 10 September 2012 11:49 |
| | Hi, this is Vesna!
A little correction: In this text there is written: "Teilen Sie... mit die ganze Welt" The right translation of this part is: "Teilen Sie... mit der ganzen Welt." (Dative: With WHOM do I share?/Mit WEM teile ich? Mit DER übrigen Welt!)
I hope I could help you!
Bye!
Vesna |
| | 10 September 2012 17:38 |
| gamineNumber of messages: 4611 | Hello Vesna. Thanks so much for your help. This was the last point we had to agree about. Kafetzou was right .
Thanks again. CC: Vesna J. |
| | 11 September 2012 04:55 |
| | Thanks, Vesna.
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| | 11 September 2012 11:15 |
| | I think it is a good translation and it is grammatically correct. I wouldn't make any changes. |
| | 11 September 2012 11:37 |
| | No problem! I want/like to help you! |