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| | 6 Август 2007 07:34 |
| XiniКол-во сообщений: 1655 | Ciao chloe, è voluto il "le permettono"? È dunque riferito alla vescica??
Facci sapere. |
| | 6 Август 2007 11:25 |
| | Ciao Xini,
si credo che il "le permettono" sia riferito alla vescica. Perché la "stoma continente o stomia continente" oppure anche detta "procedura di mitrofanoff", è una procedura chirurgica durante la quale viene introdotto un catetere nella vescica che poi deve essere svuotato. |
| | 6 Август 2007 13:27 |
| | Hi
I think she means that the botulinum toxin allows the stoma and not the bladder to grow. But the French original was very ambiguous.
Maybe Porfhyr could help as he understands medical matters particularly well.
I'm adding him as cc to this discussion.
Hi Porfhyr
What do you think, its the bladder or the stoma that must grow to postpone the enteroplasty?
Bises
Tantine CC: Porfyhr |
| | 6 Август 2007 14:34 |
| | Hi Xini, Riccio, Chloe,
Il ragazzo, Lucas, he nato con una tumore interna chi ha colpe la vescica in due.
"le permettono" se riferata a la stoma artificiale che si chiama un mitrofanoff.
"L'entéroplastie
I checked out with Porfhyr, and the botulinum toxin is effectively used to make the stoma grow, and not the bladder.
I've copy/pasted his message to me on the subject underneath:
Hi Tantine!
It is the stoma that shall grow by using the botulinum toxin. To be precise, the external connection must grow to form a completely safe exit for the urine to pass, otherwise it is a huge risk for peritonitis and septicaemia. It will not be fastened to the muscular layers of the abdominal wall if it can't grow without abdominal wall contractions. The botulinum toxin makes the muscles completely paralyzed for a while and the cellformation will then take place and the stoma will grow properly and be fastened.
Porfhyr
Hope this helps
Bises
Tantine |
| | 7 Август 2007 21:25 |
| ChloeКол-во сообщений: 27 | Hi Xini, Ricciodimare, Tantine.
I was undecided if "celle-ci" should refer to the bladder or to the stoma. I tried to check on specialized websites, but I was unsuccessful, so I made a decision which has eventually proved wrong. In Italian it should be: "... ogni 8 mesi permettono a quest'ultimo di crescere..."
Thanks for revising and helping! |
| | 7 Август 2007 21:33 |
| | Hi Chloe
It was very ambiguous, even for me, and I had to ask Porfhyr, who explained things really well.
You did a great job, the text is not easy.
Thanks
Bises
Tantine |
| | 11 Сентябрь 2007 11:35 |
| XiniКол-во сообщений: 1655 | So what about celle-ci, Tant? |
| | 11 Сентябрь 2007 17:30 |
| | Rileggendo il testo, celle-ci si dovrebbe riferire alla vescica! |
| | 11 Сентябрь 2007 18:13 |
| XiniКол-во сообщений: 1655 | |
| | 11 Сентябрь 2007 20:39 |
| | Ciao
"permettono allo stoma di crescere alfine di rimandare il più possibile l'enteroplastica."
This is good.
C'est pour faire agrandir le stoma, que Lucas prend des piquures.
Bises
Tantien
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| | 16 Сентябрь 2007 18:42 |
| | Anche io penso che "celle-ci" si riferisca alla vescica. |
| | 16 Сентябрь 2007 18:49 |
| XiniКол-во сообщений: 1655 | Olè, è tornato il pulcino nero!
Vogliamo la tua foto sulla homepage. |
| | 16 Сентябрь 2007 19:04 |
| | Hi Xini, Riccio, Witchy,
I am the person who submitted this text to be translated into Italian. It is a message from one of the parents on my TFD group.
I posted a message on the 6th August and another on the 11th of September in both of which I have confirmed that the botulinum toxin is used to make the stoma grow and not the bladder.
Please could you validate the text if there are no errors, the message has already been posted in all the other languages I requested.
Bises
Tantine
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| | 16 Сентябрь 2007 19:07 |
| | @ Xini > Come si fa a mettere la foto? C'è la tua?
@ Tantine > Lascio l'onore a Xini o Ricciodimare! |
| | 16 Сентябрь 2007 19:16 |
| | Witchy, it's been a while!
For your picture, talk to Thathavieira, she is the one in charge of the slide show.
Welcome back! CC: Witchy |
| | 17 Сентябрь 2007 13:27 |
| | Lascio l'onore a Xini |
| | 17 Сентябрь 2007 14:31 |
| | Grazie a tutti
I can put this on my forum now
Thanks so much
Bises
Tantine |