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Title
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Submitted by itsatrap100
Source language: Icelandic

Í upphafi níunda áratugarins lagði Ragnheiður ætinguna til hliðar vegna skaðsemi þessarar tækni fyrir heilsuna. Það kom þó ekki niður á list hennar því hinar stóru kolateikningar sem hún hefur unnið á síðustu árum buðu upp á sjálfsprottnari og kröftugri vinnubrögð í samræmi við þróun hennar til æ óhlutbundnara myndmáls. Ragnheiður er ef til vill fyrst og fremst teiknari andrúms og vídda sem eru undirliggjandi en ekki dagljósar. Áferð kolateikninganna er um margt áþekk silki sem blaktir á mörkum hins orðna og óorðna og umvefur áhorfandann í dansandi hillingum ljóss og skugga.

Title
from www.art.is
Translation
English

Translated by pias
Target language: English


In the beginning of the ninth decade Ragnheiður put etching aside because of the damage this technique causes to health. Yet, that didn't come to end her art because of the big carbon drawings she had performed the last years, offering both self-portraits and more powerful methods corresponding to the development of her always abstract imagination. Ragnheiður is maybe first and foremost a graphic designer, creating breathing-space and wide open spaces as is all in darkness. The texture of the carbon drawings reminds a lot about silk that flickers and marks the past and the future, and wraps around the onlooker in dancing mirages of light and shadow.
Validated by lilian canale - 6 December 2008 13:25





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22 November 2008 12:33

Anna_Louise
Number of messages: 23
sjálfsprottnari does not mean self-portraits.... self-portraits is sjálfsmynd.

also missing "in the beginning of the ... deceade"

powerful = kröftug - kröftugri = more powerful

is it really possible to say "is underlying no daylight" ?

orðna og órðna does not mean order and disorder. It means "that has been and that that has yet to become"

22 November 2008 13:56

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Thanks a lot Anna Louise! My understanding of Icelandic is far from perfect, I'm learning, and I think this was a too "heavy" translation to do.

Maybe it's better to write "is all in darkness" than "is underlying no daylight"?

Lilian, I think I can do some edits here, but I don't have a clue what "sjálfsprottnari" is ... sorry. Reject it if you have to.

23 November 2008 14:25

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Hello Lilian
I've done some "research" to find the meaning for that word: sjálfsprottnari, but I can't find it!
It might have to do with landscape paintings??

Should I do the other edits?

CC: lilian canale

23 November 2008 14:53

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
Perhaps Anna_Louise will be so kind and give us the meaning of that weird word. For the other edits, feel free to make them.

CC: Anna_Louise

30 November 2008 08:47

pias
Number of messages: 8113
I think you can reject my translation Lilian, I've searched the WHOLE net and can't find that word explained, sorry!

30 November 2008 11:20

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
Reject? why?

We may get some help from the other experts.

Hey guys, could you throw some light on this translation?

CC: Anna_Louise Bamsa Eggert

30 November 2008 12:40

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Ok

30 November 2008 22:45

itsatrap100
Number of messages: 279

I'd just like to say thank you Pias for the translation, it is obviously a difficult text.
I think I found a translation for sjálfsprottnari, it is "self-hewn" or "self-sown".

2 December 2008 17:36

pias
Number of messages: 8113
You are welcome itsatrap100!

That's very good you found the word yourself. Lilian, shall I edit according to itsatraps research?

3 December 2008 14:19

itsatrap100
Number of messages: 279
Actually I found a form that was similar in an online Icelandic-English dictionary, and I'm still not sure what this word means, but I'm pretty sure sprottnari is a from of spretta, it's that final "i" that makes it strange. If somebody is interested, an online and downloadable copy of Cleasby-Vigfusson Icelandic-English dictionary can be found at http://lexicon.ff.cuni.cz/texts/oi_cleasbyvigfusson_about.html
There are some other resources of older and less used languages at that site as well.

3 December 2008 17:20

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Thanks for the link, there are not many good Icelandic dict. online, at least ...I can't find them. Do you mean the verb "spretta"? ( jump, grow)

3 December 2008 20:22

itsatrap100
Number of messages: 279

Yes, the last entry under the verb spretta, in Cleasby-Vigfusson, is sprottnar, to grow, as in English, to grow good crops, but the other meanings of the verb spretta of "spring" and "start" imply some kind of spontaneous, or accidental meaning, so in combination with the other meanings, I think it means "self-sown".

6 December 2008 12:06

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
OK Pia, let's decide what the final version will be.
Will you make any edits?

6 December 2008 13:02

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Oh, I'm not sure about how to do, the poll thinks "self portraits" is right. I never heard of "self-sown methods". What do you suggest Lilian?

6 December 2008 13:22

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
Well...I guess since this is a "MO" request we can accept it the way it is.

6 December 2008 13:24

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Ok, thanks!

7 December 2008 01:26

Anna_Louise
Number of messages: 23
"it's that final "i" that makes it strange!"

Just a little comment on that - the final "i" is not strange at all. Like most icelandic adjectives "ari" at the end indicates more ...
sjálfsprottin - sjálfsprottnari - sjálfsprottnust

sæt - sætari - sætust
cute - cuter - cutest

7 December 2008 08:53

pias
Number of messages: 8113
Thanks a lot for the explanation Anna_Louise, I found the un declined adjective now! It's the same pattern in Swedish.

söt -sötare -sötast

Lilian, sorry for regret, but itsatrap is SO RIGHT about that word "self-sown" or maybe one could write "spontaneous" ?

7 December 2008 12:06

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
What do you think Anna? Which one would fit better?

26 December 2008 15:11

Anna_Louise
Number of messages: 23
Sorry for the late reply, I've been crazy busy. Spontaneous is more like "hvatvísi" but self-sown is more fitting, although it's just not right...

It's a tough word ;P