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| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 16:08 |
| | This is not correct Latin. If it is Latin it should be "Lupus non est lupus", or else lupum could be a word in another language. |
| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 18:57 |
| | Esta frase es un ejemplo más del genitivo plural que se suele usar en poesÃa en función de la métrica. AsÃ, con "lupus no est lupum" se quiere decir que el lobo no pertenece a otros lobos, que es dueño de sà mismo.
Después de lo que me dijo, espero que apple no se tome a mal esta pequeña corrección. |
| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 18:59 |
| | Il genitivo plurale di lupus è luporum, caro il mio sapientone. |
| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 19:02 |
| | Es un genitivo poético, "lupûm" (con la "u" bien larga), que surge de asimilar la segunda declinación a la cuarta, es una licencia poética, sólo eso. |
| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 19:12 |
| | Beh, allora mi dovresti anche dire di che poeta si tratta, perché a me non risulta. |
| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 19:19 |
| | No necesariamente pertenece a una poesÃa, es tan sólo una licencia poética, puede ser una frase anónima (un dicho, un probervio, un refrán...) |
| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 19:22 |
| | Comoda la licenza poetica...... |
| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 19:28 |
| | cara apple, por favor, si no estás convencida, fijate aquÃ.
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| | 21 Kwiecień 2007 19:46 |
| | Please, apple, translate this proverb into Italian - io non sono bravo. Bacio! |
| | 22 Kwiecień 2007 10:59 |
| | Sorry, Pirulito, but I'm not persuaded at all. Your link didn't solve my doubts. First of all, you said that it was made similar to 4th declination, but 4th declination should have two u (-uum, and the Latins didn't use the circumflex accent, as far as I know.)
Second: why on earth such a poetic licence should be used, if it is not from a poem or from a reckoned proverb (not the fake latin proverbs that sometimes appear on cucumis)?
I searched on google and didn't find this text in any serious site about Latin proverbs and mottos.
Anyway, I'm not the Latin expert: Xini will decide what to do. |
| | 22 Kwiecień 2007 11:20 |
| XiniLiczba postów: 1655 | Simply, the translator may explain the situation in the notes (in Italian).
How the original text should be,
The correct declination,
The poetic license conjecture
and so on. |
| | 22 Kwiecień 2007 12:49 |
| | Por supuesto que el circunflejo no existe en latÃn, se suele usar para indicar una contracción (ûm = uum) |
| | 22 Kwiecień 2007 13:38 |
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The girl who proposed the text seems not to speak Italian, although she lives in Italy. Her main language is Hindi and she can read only Latin and Hindi, if her profile tells the truth.
Strange, isn'it???
Xini, since Latin is your native language, you should translate the text and write an explication note in Latin.
heheheheheh
Xini, adesso è al posto giusto, non ti vorrai mica tirare indietro?
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| | 23 Kwiecień 2007 05:08 |
| | So what do we do with it ? Remove ? Meaningonly ? |
| | 23 Kwiecień 2007 07:13 |
| XiniLiczba postów: 1655 | I've put a note and changed to meaning only. |
| | 23 Kwiecień 2007 16:45 |
| | And about the meaning: pirulito said it should mean: a wolf is not of the other wolves (i.e. a wolf is his own master). On the contrary, I think that wolves are maybe the most gregarious mammals in the world (and that's the reason of the special relation between man and dog, that the man is felt by his dog as his "leader of the herd". ) |