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| | 28 leden 2007 16:46 |
| | La traduzione mi sembra più che corretta.
Il mio problema è la traduzione di "girl-guides".
La frase si riferisce a cose brutte come le "guerre e malattie". Non vedo bene cosa c'entrino le ragazze scout nel contesto. |
| | 28 leden 2007 20:49 |
| | An English speaker can tell me what does "girl guides" mean in this context?
I do not think this means "girls scout", does it?
Thanks for your help. |
| | 28 leden 2007 16:56 |
| | Mi pare di aver già sentito parlare di questa storia, forse proprio su cucumis...
Magari intende "prostitute"... |
| | 28 leden 2007 21:06 |
| | Infatti, ho guardato un pò in giro su Internet e 'prostitute' mi sembra giusto.
In questo contesto però, prostitute mi sembra troppo "spinto". Penso che 'girl-guides' sia un eufemismo per 'whore' o 'prostitute'. Non mi sembra così tanto dispregiativo.
Quindi, in italiano, tradurrei con 'bella di notte' o 'mondana'.
Ma quella che mi "piace" di più è 'lucciola'.
Cosa ne dite? |
| | 29 leden 2007 00:39 |
| | Girl guides are the British/Canadian version of Girl scouts. It's an organization to train girls to be able to survive in the wilderness. |
| | 29 leden 2007 11:02 |
| | In my translation I used what I believe is the literal translation in british english. In understand the slang meaning is more american, is this correct?
Knowing who's the author could help us decide.
Also I spotted a typo ("raggazze" instead of "ragazze" how do I correct it, or can someone else do this?
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| | 29 leden 2007 12:08 |
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| | 29 leden 2007 14:40 |
| | The slang meaning is only in sentences like the following: "I'm no girl scout, you know," meaning that I'm not naïve - I know what I'm doing (in bed).
So it's not a prostitute - it's the opposite! |
| | 29 leden 2007 14:41 |
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| | 29 leden 2007 14:51 |
| | Kafetzou > I agree for the meaning.
But, in this context, according to me, it doesn't have sense.
The sentence is about "an ugly world". For me "girl-guides" has another meaning.
I have searched on the Internet and found this: http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858628028
Someone says "girl-guides" could be another way to say "prostitute". What do you think about that Kafetzou?
I was answering your first post Kafetzou, not the second one. |
| | 29 leden 2007 15:39 |
| applePočet příspěvků: 972 | Posso dire la mia, a proposito dell'ultimo messaggio di Kafetzou? In italiano, nel senso di ingenuo, si userebbe più "giovane esploratore" (o esploratrice). "Scout" mi pare non abbia questa intenzione un po' da presa in giro.
E poi, forse, scrivendo giovani esploratrici si potrebbero salvare capra e cavoli: potrebbero essere esploratrici alla ricerca di uomini!! |
| | 29 leden 2007 20:29 |
| | Potrebbe essere una buona soluzione Apple. |
| | 30 leden 2007 02:53 |
| | Thanks for the link, Witchy, but I don't think that person has a clue - she even thinks the song is sung from a man's point of view, but to me it seems crystal clear that it's a young woman.
I admit the verse doesn't make a lot of sense - maybe it refers to something that was in the news at the time when the lyrics were written. Who knows?
But it says "girl-guides", so you guys should translate it as "girl-guides", and not try to interpret it. Here's a link that explains what girl guides are:
http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/xq/asp/sID.67/qx/whoweare/article.asp |
| | 30 leden 2007 14:14 |
| | Ok Kafetzou, so I accept the translation with "ragazze scout".
Thanks for your help. |
| | 30 leden 2007 14:42 |
| | Prego. |