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Language-course
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cucumisद्वारा बुझाइएको
स्रोत भाषा: अंग्रेजी

Language course

शीर्षक
Curso de línguas
अनुबाद
पोर्तुगाली

jonerद्वारा अनुबाद गरिएको
अनुबाद गर्नुपर्ने भाषा: पोर्तुगाली

Curso de línguas
Validated by manoliver - 2006年 अप्रिल 2日 11:53





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2006年 मार्च 14日 10:08

manoliver
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 33
Fica melhor assim:
-Curso de línguas
E nesta página sugiro as seguintes alterações:
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-Aqui poderá iniciar um debate sobre esta tradução
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2006年 मार्च 14日 07:35

cucumis
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 3785
Hi, you mean these are improvement of the European portuguese cucumis.org interface? In fact some of the text of the European portuguese interface seems to be in BRazialian portuguese, is that right? Joner, if you read this message, could you tell us your opinion?

2006年 मार्च 14日 10:42

manoliver
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 33
Hi,
In my point of view, keeping both P apart, work should be done to PE. Other solution is unifying it. In this case all is perfect.

2006年 मार्च 14日 18:25

joner
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 135
I agree with manoliver, keep the 2 variants apart, it has represented an evolution to Cucumis.org, since both speakers feel it doesn't sound "natural" with each other's variants.

The reason for using "idioma" instead of "língua" is similar to the choice between "language" and "tongue", for both can mean a spoken language, but IN ENGLISH language does not mean the oral organ used for speaking (among other more useful and pleasant functions), even though its Latin origin comes from "lingua", sic, the same in portuguese!

In short (check the links for sources):
Language (en) ~= idioma (pt)
Tongue (en) ~= língua (pt)

But in some contexts, should "língua" be prefered, still "idioma" would also fit, maybe a plural form "idiomas" in the current translation.

My decision was to employ a uniform vocabulary, and that's what can be found there, on both pt_PT and pt_BR. If "língua" should be used instead, that's ok, but you should take into consideration replacing every instance of it wherever suitable (pt_PT only, since I think that pt_BR is adequately translated).

You guys have the last word, just say it and it's ok with me.

2006年 मार्च 15日 11:25

manoliver
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 33
Hi,
I understand the explanation and I agree with "curso de idiomas" but, as joner says, speakers feel it doesn't sound "natural", as they (we) all are using "curso de línguas".
Check this example:
"A Faculdade de Letras da Universidade de Coimbra está empenhada em proporcionar a docentes, estudantes e funcionários de toda a Universidade a aprendizagem, em regime de curso livre, das línguas que lecciona.", found in an internet page.
If we do a search for "curso de idiomas", we find a lot in pt pages, mainly built by brazilians here.
Also interesting: www.brasil.gov.br/pais/lingua_portuguesa/portugues

2006年 मार्च 15日 17:21

joner
चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 135
I think that only a native pt_PT speaker as manoliver can give this detailed improvements in the pt_PT interface.

Since you are affirmative on your point, and show to be carefull in doing some research, I see no problem in proceeding with that.

All I recomend is to keep in mind that the interface must remain consistent through all the pt_PT pages:

1) Uniform vocabulary
2) Person of speach (3rd person singular, more impersonal than 2nd singular)

...and to have a comprehensive knowledge of #1, it is important to review all the texts/pages as a whole, maybe printing and having them on hand when doing a translation.

If feel in doubt, just post a message, and I'll be pleased to help you.

Good job, manoliver!