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Vertaling - Braziliaans Portugees-Engels - "Um dia descobrimos que se apaixonar é Inevitável"

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"Um dia descobrimos que se apaixonar é Inevitável"
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Opgestuurd door Cioletti
Uitgangs-taal: Braziliaans Portugees

"Um dia descobrimos que se apaixonar é Inevitável"

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One day...
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Engels

Vertaald door serepoligloto
Doel-taal: Engels

One day, we discover that falling in love is inevitable.
Laatst goedgekeurd of bewerkt door lilian canale - 1 april 2008 14:49





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2 april 2008 19:14

serepoligloto
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I meant to say "discovered".

2 april 2008 19:33

lilian canale
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Hi serepoligloto,

Yes, you meant "discovered" and I edited to "discover" since the meaning in the original text in Brazilian Portuguese is one of a general statement. So, It has to be said in Simple Present.

I can imagine that you misunderstood the verb because in Portuguese, The Simple Past and the Simple Present Tense for the first person plural is the same, I mean:

"we discover" and "we discovered" are both "descobrimos". OK?

2 april 2008 19:45

casper tavernello
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"Um dia" é uma locução adverbial -um dia [que não hoje]- que implica mudança de tempo gramatical, portanto pode ser passado ou futuro (se estivermos tratando duma linguagem coloquial, como: um dia, chegamos lá=um dia chegaremos lá). Não se aplica dessa forma em inglês também?

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2 april 2008 19:53

lilian canale
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Hi Casper,

Well... not exactly. In English we usually write exactly what we mean in terms of verb tenses.
You know that when translating English tenses we usually face challenges (that's why many students give up ), it's certainly a confusing field specially for those who speak Latin languages.
In this case, the sentence, as I explained above, should be into Simple Present because of its "general" intention.
Besides, for understanding "descobrimos" as past, (assuming that the person was talking about an specific moment in the past), the second verb should have been into past too. Agree?

And for your question: "one day" not usually determines a change in time, unless the speaker has a below average English.



2 april 2008 20:02

casper tavernello
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I don't agree with two points: why should the second verb be in past tense, since it is a statement that has no relation with time (the fact that it's in infinitive means that it's "impessoal", otherwise, as "nos apaixonarmos", should actually turn the second verb into past tense)?...and I was talking about the portuguese "Um dia", not "One day".

2 april 2008 20:03

casper tavernello
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I don't "want" you to change anything...just want to explain my point of view.

2 april 2008 20:16

lilian canale
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You misunderstood what I meant by the "second" verb, I think I didn't explain well.

The verb I was talking about was:
"Um dia descobrimos que se apaixonar é Inevitável"
for you have to make both verbs agree and it should read:
Um dia descobrimos que se apaixonar era Inevitável" (both into past)

Did I make myself understood now?


2 april 2008 20:22

casper tavernello
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No, I didn't misunderstand.
Just forgot to write something.
-se apaixonar (the fact of anyone fall in love at any time) é inevitável
-nos apaixonarmos era inevitável

Did you get it now?

2 april 2008 20:25

casper tavernello
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Não te incomodo mais com essa besteirinha...

21 november 2008 07:37

casper tavernello
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Oh boy...