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12 Fevereiro 2008 11:10 |
| | I could edit to "different tears sharing the same salt"
Does that sound better to you?  |
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12 Fevereiro 2008 11:25 |
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goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | "Different tears sharing the same salt" looks fine!   |
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12 Fevereiro 2008 12:44 |
| | Hi!
without cogitating that there is any evil
Are you sure this is correct? It means to take careful thought or think carefully about; ponder. Don't you think a synonym might be better in a poem than cogitating?
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12 Fevereiro 2008 14:02 |
| | Hi David: it's been a long time!
As you can see, I tried to keep to the meaning of the verses as much as possible.Translating poetry is a tough task!
The author, himself, has collaborated greatly. 
I used "to cogitate", perhaps influenced by the cognate in Portuguese.
I think "ponder", or "consider" would work well, maybe even better in English, but I'd like Goncin to give his opinion, since "cogitate" is also correct.
What do you think? |
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12 Fevereiro 2008 14:24 |
| | It is correct, just not very poetic an a lot of English speakers don't even know the meaning of the word. |
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12 Fevereiro 2008 14:33 |
| | David:
There are words in the original that I can asure you not many Portuguese speakers know! 
That's why it was so hard to translate.
Reading and understanding poetry is not for anyone.
It's a privilege that we are among those who can do it. 
However, I can use "to ponder" instead of "to cogitate" if you wish. It's Ok to me.
I think it fits perfectly as well.
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13 Fevereiro 2008 10:47 |
| | I think that would be better in English |
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13 Fevereiro 2008 11:05 |
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goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | What about "without conceiving of that there is any evil"?
"Ponder" seems to me one is thinking thoroughly (correct me if I'm wrong). In the original text, I meant something like "couldn't ever think of". |
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13 Fevereiro 2008 11:24 |
| | Good morning, Goncin.
If you didn't like "ponder" I'll give you some more options. Here you are. Pick one:
1- envisage
2- dream up
3- assume
4- accept
5- admit
or the already mentioned "consider". |
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13 Fevereiro 2008 11:52 |
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goncinNúmero de mensagens: 3706 | Lili,
From now on, I'll let this between you and David. I've already intervened too much... |
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13 Fevereiro 2008 12:01 |
| | So, David...I think it's up to you.
I've changed to "ponder", but I may change that as many times as it takes to achieve the most accurate version.
Therefore, after the author's point of view been set...Which do you think woud be the best option?
Now, you pick one! |
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14 Fevereiro 2008 17:40 |
| | 4ª frase da primeiro 1º poema para ser fiel deveria ser:
By the charm of a subtle woman´s soul.
3ª frase do 2º poema deveria ser:
your sea, houwevever, just wonted me by passing
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15 Fevereiro 2008 08:21 |
| | I like ponder...it reminds me of Poe! |
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15 Fevereiro 2008 10:24 |
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15 Fevereiro 2008 14:36 |
| | Ok. I will get on this as soon as I get back Saturday night. |
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16 Fevereiro 2008 01:03 |
| | Hi Lilian,
At the beginning, does
The poet looks at the world, for being his fate,
mean
The poet looks at the world, because it is his fate,
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16 Fevereiro 2008 01:08 |
| | Also, I think
Your sea, however, just wanted me by the by,
and I soon disappeared in the beach of that error.
means
Your sea, however, only casually wanted me,
and I was soon shipwrecked on the beach of that error.
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16 Fevereiro 2008 01:10 |
| | Yes, Ian . Exactly.
That is valid for both messages. |
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16 Fevereiro 2008 01:11 |
| | Yes, Ian both guesses are correct. |
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