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Translation - Frans-Engels - base comblante rides visage et contour de l’oeil

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Title
base comblante rides visage et contour de l’oeil
Text
Submitted by deha
Source language: Frans

base comblante rides visage et contour de l’oeil

Title
Face and eye contour wrinkle smoothing base
Translation
Engels

Translated by hitchcock
Target language: Engels

face and eye contour wrinkle smoothing base
Laaste geakkrediteerde redigering deur dramati - 4 February 2008 05:35





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3 February 2008 00:30

Angelus
Number of messages: 1227
Hitchcock

Você deveria traduzir para o inglês

3 February 2008 00:44

hitchcock
Number of messages: 121
rs. mais uma vez trocando as bolas.

3 February 2008 14:48

IanMegill2
Number of messages: 1671
Comblante
means
Which smoothes wrinkles by filling them in.
("Combler" = "To fill in" a hole, a crack, wrinkles or uneven places)
It's hard to put this in one English word, but it has been translated as
Smoothing
on the Internet somewhere, and I think that's just about the best we're going to do in English. No English speaker will understand "Comblante," I should think, so anything is better than that...
Also, the meaning in French is
Smoothing base for wrinkles on the face and area around the eyes
French beauty product names often leave out this "for" and other connectors
Lotion rides visage
means
Face wrinkle lotion
(i.e. Lotion for wrinkles on the face)
This is an adjectival use of the nouns "rides" and "visage" (just as we can use the nouns "face" and "wrinkle" in English, in "face wrinkle lotion" ). However, the difference is that in English the adjectives come before the noun, whereas in French they come after.

So the best version after all is:

face and eye contour wrinkle smoothing base

3 February 2008 14:49

IanMegill2
Number of messages: 1671
PS: the proof is that the translator is forced to put commas in the English translation if he leaves the words in that order, otherwise the phrase (with no commas) makes no sense.
But in French there are no commas, because the words after "base" are used as adjectives.
And

face and eye contour wrinkle smoothing base

needs no commas either!

QED

3 February 2008 16:01

hitchcock
Number of messages: 121
ok thanks for all Ian,


"French beauty product names often leave out this "for" and other connectors
Lotion rides visage "

this is exactly what I understood here, so that's why I've left the phrase like this:
"Soomthing base, wrinkles, face and eye contour."


I'll make the changes...


3 February 2008 23:25

Sweet Dreams
Number of messages: 2202
I agree with IanMegill2

4 February 2008 01:04

IanMegill2
Number of messages: 1671
Hi Hitchcock,
Yeah, the problem with leaving the words in the same order as the French is, English readers would not understand that
wrinkles, face and eye contour
were used adjectivally to describe the base.
Face lotion
is in French
Lotion visage
We could not say
Lotion face
in English...

So I think we have no choice but to reverse the order and put the
face and eye contour wrinkle
part before the noun,
base
...
Thanks for correcting it!

4 February 2008 01:06

IanMegill2
Number of messages: 1671
Hi David,
I guess you can go ahead and validate this one, if you'd like.
It's okay now!

CC: dramati

4 February 2008 02:02

hitchcock
Number of messages: 121
just one more thing before it is validated:

the correct translation for 'rides' is "wrinkle" or "wrinkles" in plural?

the Webster Online showed me "wrinkles"...

4 February 2008 03:24

IanMegill2
Number of messages: 1671
You're right, if it were used as a noun, it would be in the plural.
But in this case it's being used adjectivally, and in such cases, it must be used in the singular.
For example,
a brick house
is made of many many bricks, but we never say
*a bricks house
It's a mistake that many many non-native speakers of English make, though, because it's really counter-intuitive!
Other examples:
Vegetable salad
Three-color pen