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| | 21 February 2008 12:14 |
| smyNumber of messages: 2481 | I think you're right about "gittiÄŸi saniye bitmiÅŸtir" kfeto , but still the stresses are not in correct places
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| | 21 February 2008 13:33 |
| | Humm, je ne lis pas encore le turc. Mais si l'on considere que la traduction anglaise 'He's left, the moment has ended, it's over, I didn't lose him, he lost me.' est correcte, d'ailleurs elle sonne bien, alors il faudrait revoir la version francaise proposée et simplement changer 'la seconde est finie, est partie' par 'le temps s'est écoulé, il/elle est partie'. Et la version espagnole serait plus jolie en remplaçant 'SE HA TERMINADO EL SEGUNDO' par 'se acabo el tiempo'.
Avec tout ça, on s'eloigne peut etre de la version originale.
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| | 21 February 2008 13:44 |
| | Io scriverebbe cosÃ: "Lui ha lasciato, il momento ha finito. É finito. Non l´ho perso. Lui mi ha perso" |
| | 21 February 2008 14:44 |
| | "the moment has ended, it is over" doesn't seem correct.. )and it doesn't give the same meaning with the original one.. ) |
| | 21 February 2008 16:11 |
| | Hi all
Smy - I'm sorry but your literal translation does not convey the slightest meaning in English.
I will ask Kafetzou to come and help out here, she has more ease with Turkish than I do
I feel like I'm going round and round in circles with this one
CC: kafetzou |
| | 21 February 2008 16:15 |
| kfetoNumber of messages: 953 | maybe:
The one who left, has left, the second she/he left, has passed. I did not lose /her/him, rather she/he lost me. |
| | 21 February 2008 16:17 |
| | I think it's supposed to be poetic:
He's gone.
The moment he left is over.
I didn't lose him - he lost me.
(could also be she) |
| | 21 February 2008 16:42 |
| | I'd prefer to keep 'he's gone...' .
Tantine, why do you prefer 'he's left...'? |
| | 21 February 2008 18:53 |
| | That's my opinion: ''he/she is gone, the second it's over, he/she is gone. I don't lose who is gone, but who is gone... have lost me...''
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| | 21 February 2008 20:07 |
| | he's left, the second is finished, left, I did not lose him, it is him which lost me. |
| | 21 February 2008 21:27 |
| | Hi All
Kafetzou - thanks, now it makes more sense
Diego - I didn't prefer left to gone, I was just trying to find a wording that didn't feel clumsy in English.
If no-one minds I will edit as per Kafetzou's suggestions and then validate. |
| | 22 February 2008 06:37 |
| sybelNumber of messages: 76 | the instant he left is over |
| | 23 February 2008 00:36 |
| | io utilizzerei il past simple anche per la prima parte della traduzione. In italiano si e' costretti ad utilizzare un verbo ausiliare quando si tratta di verbi intransitivi al passato prossimo. In inglese cio' non e' necessario, perche'si usa il past simple quando l' azione si e' conclusa nel tempo in modo definitivo.
La traduzione piu' opportuna sarebbe:
He/she/It left ,(...)
Per il resto ritengo che la traduzione vada bene, considerato che non se ne conosce il contesto delle frasi in lingua originale. |
| | 23 February 2008 00:51 |
| | Hi All
I have edited in trying to incorporate most people's suggestions.
I have put an alternative in the comments box.
I have reset a poll.
Since this is a "meaning only" request, I think we are floccinaucinihilifipilicating her so, unless someone comes up with something more accurate but understandable in English, I will validate the current version. |
| | 23 February 2008 04:32 |
| | Sorry, Tantine; it's now wrong. GİTTİĞİ SANİYE BİTMİŞTİR means "The moment (when) s/he left is gone", not "the second has ended, it's gone". |
| | 23 February 2008 21:08 |
| | Bu cümle için anlamı daha iyi veren bir çeviri yapılabilir |
| | 23 February 2008 22:27 |
| | Je penche pour la version alternative qui est beaucoup plus claire en anglais. On utilise plus facilement "moment" en anglais que "second" même si c'est le sens du mot "saniye" en turc |
| | 23 February 2008 23:21 |
| | The problem is not the difference between "second" and "moment" - that's not important. The problem is the connection between what is "gone" and what has "ended" - it is the second/moment when s/he left that is gone. |
| | 23 February 2008 23:25 |
| | I've edited the text and validated the translation. Tantine, I hope you don't mind - you sounded like you were kind of tired of it anyhow. |
| | 24 February 2008 16:19 |
| | Hi Kafetzou
Not at all
Thanks so much
I could no longer see head nor tail of this one.
Bises
Tantine |