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Aklıma gelir birden hiç beklemediğim bir anda aniden
Anılar kopmaz benden beni ağlatan onlar anılar zaten
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All of a sudden it comes back to my mind in a flash at a completely unexpected moment.
The memories don't leave me. What is already making me cry is them - those memories.
kafetzou认可或编辑 - 2008年 七月 3日 20:55





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2008年 六月 30日 01:09

lilian canale
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That sounds better.

What do you think Kafetzou?

2008年 六月 30日 03:15

kafetzou
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It sounds better, but still awkward. What's wrong with my version?

They are what is making me cry already, those memories.

2008年 六月 30日 03:49

handyy
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The subject is "beni aÄŸlatan (ÅŸey)", but according to your version the subject becomes "onlar".

2008年 六月 30日 03:54

lilian canale
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OK, so let's set a poll and see if the other users have some ideas.

2008年 六月 30日 05:48

kafetzou
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How about "What is making me cry is those memories"? I don't understand "onlar anılar" anyway - "o anılar" daha iyi olmaz mıydı?

2008年 六月 30日 16:26

kfeto
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i'd use "it will come" and
"it's them, that make me cry, the ..." or kafetzous suggestion except with 'are' ofcourse
i think a comma is missing between the onlar anılar

2008年 六月 30日 18:08

handyy
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Kafetzou, if we say ""What is making me cry is those memories.", then, the meaning "already" is lacking there.

Kfeto, in the first sentence present simple is used, not future tense, so we can't say "It will come".

2008年 六月 30日 18:42

kafetzou
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How about "What is already making me cry is those memories"?

And handyy, kfeto may be right. We often use future tense to describe something that is expected to happen, and is expressed with present tense in Turkish (and other languages). What we don't know for sure here is whether the writer is describing something that happens regularly (simple present tense) or something that is likely to happen (future tense).

So the whole thing would be as follows:

All of a sudden it'll come back to my mind in a flash at a completely unexpected moment.
The memories don't leave me. What is already making me cry is those memories.

2008年 六月 30日 18:44

kafetzou
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Lilian, I hope you don't mind, but I'm taking over this one. I'll re-set the poll, although my feeling is that it's done.

2008年 六月 30日 18:56

kfeto
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shouldn't the last 'is' be 'are'? i'm not sure myself

2008年 六月 30日 19:07

kafetzou
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No, because the subject is "what", and it was treated earlier in the sentence as singular. It could be "What are ... are ...," but I think that would sound a bit awkward.

2008年 六月 30日 19:41

handyy
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Here we go to the beginning.

--At first you didn't accept "What is making me cry is already them, the memories" because of "the singular subject and the plural predicate". but now you do the same thing.

--First sentence is already happening. it is definetely not about future.

2008年 六月 30日 19:40

handyy
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The speaker intentionally says "..onlar, (yani) anılar" so why do we omit one of them??

2008年 七月 1日 03:54

kafetzou
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Hmm. Good point. I'm just trying to make it sound more English. "them, the memories" sounds downright weird in English, but I will change it back if you would prefer.

2008年 七月 1日 23:22

handyy
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Kafetzou, now this translation is exactly correct. thank you so much for your efforts.

2008年 七月 1日 23:57

kfeto
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hmm kafetzou,
singular 'what' is the subject of the first verb that is 'is'= "What is making me cry"

the subject of the second 'is' is 'those memories' which is plural, so 'are' should be used
sentence is just inverted= those memories are /what is making me cry/

2008年 七月 2日 17:20

merdogan
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I agree kfeto "........are those memories "

2008年 七月 2日 19:56

kafetzou
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Sorry, guys, but you're wrong about that. The subject is still "what".

(What I want to say) is this.
(What is bothering me) is the following.
(What is making me sneeze) is the flowers.

2008年 七月 3日 22:01

kfeto
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nope, i still think it's "are", but ok

2008年 七月 3日 22:55

kafetzou
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You're welcome to think that.
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