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Translation - French-Spanish - Gagne tout ou ne perds rien

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Title
Gagne tout ou ne perds rien
Text
Submitted by pitbull7100
Source language: French Translated by gamine

Gagne tout ou ne perds rien

Title
Gana todo o no pierdas nada.
Translation
Spanish

Translated by Cisa
Target language: Spanish

Gana todo o no pierdas nada.
Validated by lilian canale - 8 July 2008 21:16





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30 June 2008 14:50

Anita_Luciano
Number of messages: 1670
the person requesting the translation from Danish is asking for a direct translation, so it shouldn´t say "to lose all or to win nothing" in Spanish (by using the infinitive form) but rather "lose all or win nothing" (my Spanish is rusty but in Portuguese it would go: "perde tudo ou não ganha nada" )

I believe the French version should be corrected as well.


30 June 2008 15:47

Anita_Luciano
Number of messages: 1670
actually, as far as I can see, the Spanish version that has been rejected is the correct one.....

30 June 2008 16:04

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
No, Anita, even with the changes in verb tenses from infinitive into imperative, the rejected translation is still wrong.

30 June 2008 16:22

Anita_Luciano
Number of messages: 1670
ah, but it shouldn´t be changed to the imperative, but to the present tense!

The sentence in Danish lacks a subject, but it is indeed written in the present tense (the imperative form would be: Tab alt eller vind ingenting). That is also why I translated it to "perde tudo ou não ganha nada" in Portuguese and not "perca tudo ou não ganhe nada" :-)

30 June 2008 16:48

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
Anyway, Anita, into simple present, that rejected version is still wrong.
When a version is accepted you will be able to compare.

Cisa,
let's wait until we decide what the correct verb tense should be before editing this translation of yours, OK?

CC: Cisa Francky5591

30 June 2008 17:14

Anita_Luciano
Number of messages: 1670
Ok, I just wanted to let you know that the sentence is a little strange in Danish due to the lack of a subject (there is no way of knowing if it is, for instance, "I lose or win nothing" or "he/she loses or wins nothing" ) and due to the present tense.

30 June 2008 18:05

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
in French it wouldn't make sense using present tense without subject, this is maybe why gamine used the infinitive in the French version...

CC: lilian canale

1 July 2008 10:53

Cisa
Number of messages: 765
Hi!
Yes, I believe there are problems with the Danish version, but still in French it sounds better with infinitives.... At least to my ears.

Anyway, just let me know how you decided with the Spanish sentences and I´ll correct mine according to that immediately!

1 July 2008 21:35

lenab
Number of messages: 1084
In my rejected version I misspelled "pierde". But I don't think it is a negation. It says "win nothing", not "don't win anything". I this case I think "nada" could be written independently, without the negation. Is it not so?
I agree with Francky, that is doesn't make much sense in French and Spanish when we don't have a subject. You don't know how to decline the verb...

8 July 2008 18:26

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
Hola Cisa,

La solicitud original en danés ha sido cambiada, la traducción de gamine en francés tendrá que cambiar también. Cuando esto ocurra... ¿podrías adaptar tu traducción ? Creo que la has basado en ella. Debes usar imperativo.

Perdona el inconveniente, Gracias.

8 July 2008 20:56

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Oho, is Cisa still here? I thought she was going to be away for a while.

Maybe we should edit the Spanish version as well?

8 July 2008 20:57

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Cisa, are you still with us?

CC: Cisa

8 July 2008 21:00

Francky5591
Number of messages: 12396
Oh yeah sorry, Cisa's still with us! (I checked the thread)

8 July 2008 21:14

lilian canale
Number of messages: 14972
This was becoming an endless soap-opera!

Problem solved! I've edited it correctly and considering that Lila F. had rejected it, I re-evaluated and accepted it with no rating. I hope Cisa won't mind.

CC: Cisa

9 July 2008 11:45

Lila F.
Number of messages: 159
I rejected the translation into Spanish because at first it said "Perder todo o no ganar nada", that are not the same as "Gana todo o no pierdas nada".

9 July 2008 11:53

lenab
Number of messages: 1084
That was how I read it from the beginning, before it was edited. But never mind. Everything is Ok now ,I guess. The important thing isn't who made the correct translation, but that we finally come to a conclusion, in my point of wiev.