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Hi AspieBrain,

There is something wrong in this line:

"can override physical boundaries, psychological, social and cultural."

what is wrong with the line? It continues the description of what Love is.

It should be read Love,blah blah blah,can override physical boundaries...

It would make more sense if it was actually written as:
"Love, (a warm and deep feeling between human beings exchanged within frames of relationship such as friendship, coupling or family), can override physical boundaries, psychological, social and cultural."

I translated it the way it was written as a long, sentence within sentence.

Any better ideas are more than welcome.
Thanks!

"...can override physical boundaries, psychological, social and cultural."


"psychological, social and cultural" are either adjectives for "boundaries" therefore they must be listed before the word, or adverbs ending in "ly".

That is how the original text is written. I am doing an exact translation without changing the order or the grammar!

When I tried in other translations to correct a similar grammatical "gap" between Hebrew and English, I was told to stay true to the original text and not adjust it.

Now that I stayed true, you advise me to adjust it.

The comment you posted was my exact thoughts too, but the original text is written as I translated it. So tell me what needs to be done.

Thanks again.

When something from a faulty original is translated textually it will be also wrong in the translation. We, admins, sometimes get in time to correct the original, other times, specially when we don't know the source language, the errors still remain when the translator gets the text. However, we can't offer a translation which has grammatical errors or misspellings in the target language. Our job is providing our users accurate and correct versions into the target language they want. We are the translators and the ones supposed to do things correctly. Some of the requestors are not able to recognize their own mistakes when submitting a text.
The expert's job is correcting every grammatical mistake before setting a poll to check the accuracy.
That's how it works. I don't know a different system, at least not for the translations I evaluate.

OK explanation accepted. Correction made. Grammar adjusted. Coast is clear! ;-)

Poll set.

Actually the Hebrew original says 'Love [...] has physical, psychological, social and cultural aspects'. It doesn't really say anything about overriding or not overriding any boundaries. That is a nice linguistic interpretation, but in this case a bit removed from the original intent.

Also, 'For' which begins the second sentence, is not there in the Hebrew original, which was evidently cut off in the middle. It literaly just says 'Love has no specific [or defined] interpretation, and can assume [etc.]'

"physical, psychological, social and cultural" describe the feeling in the original text, whereas in the translation it relates to the boundaries.

The translation is adjusted according to your advise.

I used overrides boundaries because the other option which was true to the original would be "confirms many aspects" is not something that one would say in English. Instead I used the extreme opposite "overrides boundaries" which gives eventually the same feeling and is more commonly used.

The translation now is edited. I replaced "overrides all boundaries" with "confirms all aspects".

OK, now I see where the problem is.
You understood the word אשר as having to do with confirmation or approval; it is indeed the correct verb, but in this case, we are looking at another meaning.
אשר in this passage is simply 'that'. In this sense, אשר is often shortened to a prefix, ש, but here appears in its full form.
I hope the sentence makes more sense now!
libera

No actually it doesn't make any sense now!

If אשר means "that" then this "that" needs to be followed by a verb. The word היבטים "aspects" is not a verb (there is no verb "to aspect"

So we need a verb here. Love,..., that (verb) physical etc. aspects

Please write down the complete sentence as you feel it should be because this back and forth messaging is not really helping clarify what you are trying to say/explain to me.

Thank you

Sorry - I didn't explain all of it.
In this sentence, the verb is 'has', which in Hebrew appears as לו - 'he/it has'. In literary form we often discard the word יש. It would have made more sense to you had you read: אשר יש לו היבטים.
All together: אשר לו היבטים = which/that has aspects.

Yes, now it makes sense!
I edited the text of the translation and hopefully it is not as it should be.

Thank you

Hello AspieBrain,
Shouldn't it be "among" instead of "between"??, Here: a warm and deep feeling between human beings.

If "can assume" refers to the love, so I think it should be "assumes"..

C.K.

done!