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Vertaling - Frans-Engels - Un véritable coup d'état se prépareHuidige status Vertaling
Categorie Samenleving/Mensen/Politici | Un véritable coup d'état se prépare | | Uitgangs-taal: Frans
Qu’est-ce qu’un coup d’Etat ? C’est le remplacement d’un pouvoir légitime, issu du peuple, par un pouvoir qui ne l’est pas.
Le transfert, en toute illégalité, à des autorités européennes et internationales qui ne sont soumises à aucun contrôle démocratique de pouvoirs qui relèvent par nature de la souveraineté populaire s’apparente à un véritable coup d’Etat.
Les gouvernants qui sont à la manoeuvre manifestent leur plus total mépris du respect des exigences démocratiques. Par des artifices de procédure, en interprétant abusivement des règles dont ils se moquent, ils se font les complices d’une entreprise de démantèlement de la démocratie et d’effacement d’un acquis fondamental dans l’histoire de l’humanité : la souveraineté du peuple. | Details voor de vertaling | Extrait de ce lien :
http://blogs.mediapart.fr/blog/raoul-marc-jennar/160212/un-veritable-coup-d-etat-se-prepare-le-21-fevrier |
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| A genuine coup d’état is being devised | | Doel-taal: Engels
What is a coup d’état? It is the replacement of a legitimate power, issued by the people, by a power that is not.
The illegal transfer to European and international authorities who are not subject to any democratic control -which naturally comes with popular sovereignty- is similar to a genuine coup d’état.
The leaders that are wheeling and dealing to do this, show the greatest contempt toward respecting democratic demands. By using cunning procedures -and misinterpreting the legislation they scoff at- they make themselves accomplices of in a scheme to undermine democracy and remove a fundamental pillar of human history: popular sovereignty. | Details voor de vertaling | "a fundamental _pillar_":
'pillar' as a translation from the French 'un acquis'.
'un acquis' is like an entitlement, a benefit, a 'perk' (but not quite) that is irrevocable.
It is something people fought for in the past (most likely a social benefit) that is considered "available forever" and can't be destroyed.
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Laatst goedgekeurd of bewerkt door Lein - 8 mei 2012 11:16
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21 februari 2012 12:01 | | | That wasn't easy... I'm sure this can be improved  
And the French was very... convoluted  | | |
21 februari 2012 19:17 | | | European s and international s 
LÃ c'est toi qui te compliques! 
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21 februari 2012 21:59 | | | Hey!
euuhh j'ai fait une faute ? Je voulais conserver les pluriels d'origine.
J'imagine que "to European and international authorities" marche aussi mais ... bon je sais pas  | | |
21 februari 2012 23:22 | | |  ça n'est pas que ça "marche aussi", c'est qu'"il n'y a que ça qui marche", ici "European" et "international" sont des adjectifs, pas des substantifs ni des gentilés, donc ils sont invariables.
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22 februari 2012 09:49 | | | Wooops ...  | | |
4 mei 2012 16:29 | | 
LeinAantal berichten: 3389 | Hi RedRhadow 
Soory, it took a while before anyone started evaluating this one 
I have made a few edits and set a poll.
Text before my edits:
What is a coup d’état? It is the replacement of a legitimate power, one coming from the masses, by a power that is not.
Made in absolute illegality, the transfer to European and international authorities that are not subjected to any democratic control of powers--those that naturally come within popular sovereignty--is similar to a genuine coup d’état.
The leaders that are wheeling and dealing to this, evince their greatest contempt toward the democratic demands’ respect. By using cunning procedures--and excessively interpreting the rules that they care nothing for--they are making themselves the accomplices in a scheme for undermining the democracy and removing a fundamental human history’s pillar: popular sovereignty. | | |
4 mei 2012 21:40 | | | It is the replacement of a legitimate power, one coming from the masses, by a power that is not.
...> It is the takeover of a legitimate government by a revolt. | | |
5 mei 2012 00:41 | | | | | |
8 mei 2012 03:54 | | | The translation is essentially correct, although I do feel like the phrasing is unnecessarily awkward in some places and can be improved:
- "issue du people" in a political discussion would likely be "issued by the people"
- 2nd para: "The illegal transfer to European and international authorities who are not subject to any democratic control of inherently popularly sovereign powers is a true depiction of a coup d'etat."
- I would translate "en interprétant abusivement des règles dont ils se moquent" to something like "with abusive interpretations of legislation they scoff at" because it's important to state how they interpret they laws and that they mock them.
- "ils se font les complices d’une entreprise de démantèlement de la démocratie et … " is better translated as simply as "are accomplices in an enterprise dedicated to the dismantlement of democracy and …"
Both versions can be correct ... | | |
8 mei 2012 09:43 | | | Thanks for these suggestions, miss! | | |
8 mei 2012 09:55 | | | Thank you a lot.
I appreciate your comments.
Indeed, I like the 'to scoff at'... and 'issued by' too ...
Here's a watermelon for ya since you like 'em -->
Thanks Ms. 
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8 mei 2012 11:15 | |
LeinAantal berichten: 3389 | 
Thanks all for your comments |
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