Käännös - Kreikka-Englanti - Yparxei mia kali paroimia gia tous filous mas...

Hi Reggina

I've set a poll from the outset, since the English is very well written. There is simply a typo in the second "shepherd" who seems to have lost his first "h".

If Skopia is a town or a region or whatever (sorry I'm too lazy to get up and look in an atlas ) then "skopian" should be written with a capital "S".

Bises
Tantine

This is complicated. Skopianoi is what the Greeks call the citizens of the country known by the official name of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Greeks don't call them Macedonians, because there is a part of Greece called Macedonia (to simplify the story). But in English, we call these people Macedonians.

Also, "shepherd" is misspelled (both times).

Ok for the shepherd.
As for ''skopians'': The man who said this phrase is Giorgos Karatzaferis the president of a right-wing populist political party who -and i quote from wikipedia- ''doesn't recognise of FYROM under any nomenclature that includes the term Macedonia''.
So i am certain that translating skopians into macedonians is a bad idea.

Good point, but it depends on the purpose of your translation. If you want anyone outside of Greece (who is not familiar with the way language is used in Greece to express political views) to understand who the text is referring to, you'll need to use the word "Macedonians".

If, on the other hand, you think the intended reader knows what the word "Skopian" refers to, then it's OK.

kfeto, are you following this discussion? Is this translation just for you, or is it going to be read by other people?

By the way, it should be mentioned that the word "Skopianoi" comes from "Skopje", the capital of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

Hello,

yes I was following. I asked the translation mainly to now which greek proverb was used so no politics;-).
It is just for me. I guess it would be not right translating his words as macedonian or fyrom seeing his views on the country.

OK - as long as you understand the meaning.

It's validated

Thanks for everyone's help

Bises
Tantine