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Traduction - Français-Latin - À vivre sans risques, on ne vit rien.

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À vivre sans risques, on ne vit rien.
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Langue de départ: Français

À vivre sans risques, on ne vit rien.

Titre
Sine periculis vivens, vere non vivis.
Traduction
Latin

Traduit par alexfatt
Langue d'arrivée: Latin

Sine periculis vivens, vere non vivis.
Dernière édition ou validation par Aneta B. - 5 Septembre 2010 23:58





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5 Septembre 2010 22:09

Aneta B.
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Hello dear experts in French! Could one of you give me a bridge, please?

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5 Septembre 2010 22:43

gamine
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Hello dear. Word by word it's: "To live without risks, you live nothing" but I'd say:

"Living without risks you don't live".

5 Septembre 2010 22:48

Aneta B.
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Thank you, dear!

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Alex, I think you didn't understand the source text precisely. Could you correct your translation, please?

5 Septembre 2010 22:59

alexfatt
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I translated into Latin thinking
"If you live without risks, you don't live really".

French text doesn't show any 2nd singular person.
It shows only a general subject "on", which finds its equivalent in the 3rd singular person passive ending "-tur".

Maybe instead of "si vivitur" I could have written "vivendo".
Is "vere" totally wrong in this context?

5 Septembre 2010 23:24

Aneta B.
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I see. So, you can leave this passive impersonal form I guess.

But "Vivendo" is typical "Italian solution"
In Latin it should be "vivens" (participium praesentis activi).
You added "vere" (truly) to the text, because you interpreted it in this just way. I don't think it is very bad. I'd say this is rather a matter of your "licentia poetica" (even if it is not a poem at all). And becuase this is a request "meaning only" you can let yourself use the "licence"


5 Septembre 2010 23:27

Aneta B.
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But using "vivens" in the first clause, you have to use 2nd person in the second one...

5 Septembre 2010 23:40

alexfatt
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Then is this OK?

"Sine periculis vivens, vere non vivis."

5 Septembre 2010 23:46

Aneta B.
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Exactly!