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tu, sempre tu e solo tu nella mia mente. Il più...
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Submitted by patrizia80
Source language: Italian

Tu, sempre tu e solo tu nella mia mente... il più dolce dei pensieri... tu uomo che mi hai colpita dritta al cuore, tu che ora possiedi la mia anima... qualunque sia la strada che mi aspetta, è con te che voglio percorrerla, per tutta la vita.

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Tu in mente mea
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Latin

Translated by Efylove
Target language: Latin

Tu, semper tu tantumque tu in mente mea... ex omnibus cogitatio dulcissima... tu vir qui animum meum recta commovisti, tu cui nunc est anima mea... quaecumque via me exspectat, tecum eam percurrere volo, per totam vitam.
Validated by Aneta B. - 28 March 2011 00:13





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22 March 2011 22:20

Aneta B.
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1. ex cogitationibus dulcissimam - why "accusativus"? Shouldn't be "nominativus"?

"tu... il più dolce dei pensieri" --> you... the sweetest of the thoughts (maybe "cogitationum dulcissima"?)


2."tu uomo che..."--> tu vir qui??
it still refers to a woman. Does'nt it? So, maybe "vir" --> "femina" or simply "homo". How do you think, dear?

3. "qualunque sia la strada che mi aspetta"-->"quaecumque via me exspectet"
(In Italian version there is also the subjunctive here, am I right?)

Tell me if I am wrong, please.


22 March 2011 22:17

Aneta B.
จำนวนข้อความ: 4487
I would also change a word order a bit in the following place: in mente mea semper --> semper in mente mea

Well, you are likely to say that grammatically we can't be sure that it is a text about a woman, but logically? Could a male person be sweetest of the thoughts? Hm...

23 March 2011 08:47

Efylove
จำนวนข้อความ: 1015
1. Of course it should be nominativus.

2. "Uomo" is a male person, no way it could be addressed to a female. A female is talking ("mi hai colpita" is feminine). And I think, maybe sometimes a man can be the sweetest of the thoughts if you are very very in love...

3. But I've studied that we find the indicative with quisquis and quicumque, even if in Italian there the subjunctive. Uhm... maybe I will find you something about this rule on the net.

23 March 2011 10:25

patrizia80
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It's a woman that speaks about a man...

23 March 2011 23:30

Aneta B.
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Wow! I didn't know that "uomo" was always male! I thought it was like Latin "homo" which could concern a man as well as a woman.
You know, I got a bit confused because of your "dulcissimam". It simply suggested a female gender.

To tell you the truth I didn't know the rule that "quisquis" took always the indicative.
But, I believe you, dear colleague. So, let's leave the sentence like it is now.


24 March 2011 20:45

Efylove
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Yeah, I know that "dulcissima" sounds quite confusing: I made it agree with the female gender of "cogitatio, cogitationis". Maybe I should change it with something like "ex omnibus dulcissima cogitatio"...
What do you think, dear?


25 March 2011 00:47

Aneta B.
จำนวนข้อความ: 4487
Yes, I like the idea.

25 March 2011 14:05

Aneta B.
จำนวนข้อความ: 4487
One more thing, dear. Maybe you missed one "tu" in your translation:

Tu, sempre tu e solo tu nella mia mente...

-->Tu, semper tu tantumque tu in mente mea ?

I've changed a word order once again...
What do you think?


25 March 2011 19:15

Efylove
จำนวนข้อความ: 1015
Ok!