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tell someone you love them
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Opgestuurd door carolinemassie
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We are only given today, and never promised tomorrow... So be sure to tell someone that you love them

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Solum hodiernus dies nobis datur...
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Solum hodiernus dies nobis datur, ac nunquam crastinus dies pollicetur. Ergo pro certo habe ut alicui dicas te eum amare.
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"amare" or "in amore habere"
Laatst goedgekeurd of bewerkt door Aneta B. - 18 december 2010 16:23





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18 december 2010 00:34

Aneta B.
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Hi Alex!
You know I have some doubts regarding yor translation of the second sentence.

1. I haven't met such an expression "certum habe", Alex. My proposition:

-->pro certo habe = know for certain, be sure

2. Tum --> ergo, igitur?

3. te illum amare --> te eum amare/in amore habere/
("illum" would refer to the 3rd person)

4. You know I would try to avoid this double ACI:
te alicui dicere --> ut alicui dicas

What do you think?


18 december 2010 12:45

alexfatt
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Hi Aneta!
Sorry, I found this one quite difficult to be translated...

1. You're right, the expression is pro certo habere.

2. I guess it can be changed with ergo. Do "tum" and "ergo" have different meanings?

3. I used illum to underline that it is referred to the previous alicui. I thought that eum was too general. Is this wrong?

4. Yes, I also wanted to avoid two consecutive infinitive propositions. But, while in Ancient Greek you can always replace an infinitive proposition with a declarative proposition (introduced by "ὡς" or "ὅτι" ), I don't know how we can do it in Latin.

Teach me, please.

18 december 2010 16:21

Aneta B.
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Don't worry, dear. The sentence was not so easy to translate into Latin.
Ok, let me try to answer some of your questions.

1.

2. tum = then, at that time, next, moreover, besides
Ergo/igitur= therefore, consequently, then, so

3. Have a look at the following sentence from the Bible: "Providete mihi aliquem bene psallentem et adducite eum ad me".

Both pronouns ("is, ea id" and "ille, illa illum" ) are actually similar and we can often exchage them, but in sentences like this above we have to use “eum”, because “illum” would be confusing and somebody could understand that “illum” didn’t refer to “aliquis” but to somebody else...
Generally:
Ille = that one
Is =this one

4. Why are you asking me how to do it? I have just done it for you in the former post
te alicui dicere --> ut alicui dicas

So, I would let it go as:
"Tum certum habe te alicui dicere te illum amare".
--> Ergo in certo habe ut alicui dicas te eum amare (in amore habere).


18 december 2010 16:18

alexfatt
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OK. Thank you!

18 december 2010 16:30

Aneta B.
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My pleasure, dear Alex.