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Titel	The Ministry of Foreign Affairs presents its...
Text Tillagd av Masterburak	Källspråk: Engelska The Ministry of Foreign Affairs presents its compliments to the Embassy of the United Kingdom and the honour to refer to the Embassy's Note No. 16 of the 4th of february 1966 on the subject of the supply of three complete IFF systems for the coastal warning radar sites at Åžile, Marmara Island and Zonguldak. Ankara,May,1966 Embassy of the United Kingdom Ankara
Anmärkningar avseende översättningen	Bu metini bulmak iÃ§in Ã§ok uÄŸraÅŸtÄ±m. Burada ne anlatÄ±lmak isteniyor fikrim var fakat ayrÄ±ntÄ±larÄ± yardÄ±m ederseniz Ã¶ÄŸrenmek istiyorum. Bunu diplomatik yazÄ±ÅŸmalar kategorisinden buldum bu metni resmi dile uyarlamanÄ±z benim aÃ§Ä±mdan iyi olur. Åžimdiden teÅŸekkÃ¼rler iyi Ã§alÄ±ÅŸmalar

Titel	DÄ±ÅŸiÅŸleri BakanlÄ±ÄŸÄ±
Översättning Turkiska Översatt av ankarahastanesi	Språket som det ska översättas till: Turkiska DÄ±ÅŸiÅŸleri BakanlÄ±ÄŸÄ±, Ä°ngiltere BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§iliÄŸine tebriklerini iletir ve Åžile, Marmara AdasÄ± ve Zonguldak'taki sahil uyarÄ± radar bÃ¶lgeleri iÃ§in Ã¼Ã§ tam IFF sisteminin saÄŸlanmasÄ± konulu 4 Åžubat 1966 tarihli 16 numaralÄ± BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik Notuna atÄ±fta bulunmak ister. Ankara, MayÄ±s,1966 Ä°ngiltere BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§iliÄŸi Ankara
Anmärkningar avseende översättningen	smy's note: ------- "the honour to refer to" cÃ¼mlesinde eksik kelime var, doÄŸrusu "has the honour to refer to" olacak

Senast granskad eller redigerad av smy - 27 December 2007 17:02

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		25 December 2007 14:23
	smy Antal inlägg: 2481	this translation is really good ankarahastanesi, I've made some edits but I'm not sure about the meaning of "Embassy's Note (BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik tezkeresi)"
		25 December 2007 16:38
	ankarahastanesi Antal inlägg: 29	it may be:'bÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik notu' or 'bÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik kaydÄ±' and last part of the translation may be 'BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik notundan dolayÄ± onurlandÄ±ÄŸÄ±nÄ± sunmaktadÄ±r'. In my opinion 'baÅŸvuru' is not suitable. thank you very much for your helping.
		25 December 2007 16:43
	smy Antal inlägg: 2481	you're welcome ankarahastanesi 'bÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik notu' is better and the translation for: "the honour to refer to the..." must be like above. But we may have a poll
		25 December 2007 22:51
	kafetzou Antal inlägg: 7963	The phrase "present its compliments to" is just a formal salutation. Also, "the honour to refer to" is not "baÅŸvuru yapma onurunu" - but I don't understand what verb goes with "the honour" - "presents the honour to refer to" doesn't make sense. There is something wrong with the original text here.
		25 December 2007 22:53
	kafetzou Antal inlägg: 7963	Masterburak, "and the honour" kÄ±smÄ±nda bir kelime eksik deÄŸil mi?
		26 December 2007 12:30
	smy Antal inlägg: 2481	I think you are right about there is a missing verb here Kafetzou, I've made a search in google and here is a paragraph which is nearly the same with the source text here (http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/bh903.txt): --------- "The Embassy of the United States of America presents its compliments to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of the Netherlands and has the honor to refer to the Agreement on the..." ------ I've found similar texts and each has this verb (has/have the honor to refer to) and it should be the case here. So, may that be "atÄ±fta bulunma ÅŸerefine/onuruna sahiptir", but I'm not sure, this is rather pompous style of writing , what it is the alternative sentence for "has/have the honor to refer to..."?
		26 December 2007 15:43
	kafetzou Antal inlägg: 7963	"would like to refer to"? It simply means that whatever comes next will be about Note No. 16.
		26 December 2007 16:44
	smy Antal inlägg: 2481	then it would be "gÃ¶nderme yapmak/atÄ±fta bulunmak ister" ankarahastanesi, could you edit it?
		26 December 2007 17:21
	kafetzou Antal inlägg: 7963	It has nothing to do with "sending" - does "gÃ¶nderme" have another meaning here?
		26 December 2007 20:41
	ankarahastanesi Antal inlägg: 29	atfen onur duyduÄŸunu sunmaktadÄ±r:gÃ¶nderme yaparak onurlandÄ±ÄŸÄ±nÄ± sunmaktadÄ±r:atÄ±fta bulunarak onurlandÄ±ÄŸÄ±nÄ± sunmaktadÄ±r.
		26 December 2007 20:47
	kafetzou Antal inlägg: 7963	Sorry - you lost me. TÃ¼rkÃ§em var da o kadar yok.
		27 December 2007 16:31
	smy Antal inlägg: 2481	gÃ¶nderme yapmak = to refer to
		27 December 2007 16:38
	smy Antal inlägg: 2481	I've edited it according your suggestion Kafetzou (would like to refer to), and it means "atÄ±fta bulunmak/gÃ¶nderme yapmak ister"
		27 December 2007 17:01
	smy Antal inlägg: 2481	it seems everybody agrees on it's correctness now, thank you all