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Kichwa	The Ministry of Foreign Affairs presents its...
Nakala Tafsiri iliombwa na Masterburak	Lugha ya kimaumbile: Kiingereza The Ministry of Foreign Affairs presents its compliments to the Embassy of the United Kingdom and the honour to refer to the Embassy's Note No. 16 of the 4th of february 1966 on the subject of the supply of three complete IFF systems for the coastal warning radar sites at Åžile, Marmara Island and Zonguldak. Ankara,May,1966 Embassy of the United Kingdom Ankara
Maelezo kwa mfasiri	Bu metini bulmak iÃ§in Ã§ok uÄŸraÅŸtÄ±m. Burada ne anlatÄ±lmak isteniyor fikrim var fakat ayrÄ±ntÄ±larÄ± yardÄ±m ederseniz Ã¶ÄŸrenmek istiyorum. Bunu diplomatik yazÄ±ÅŸmalar kategorisinden buldum bu metni resmi dile uyarlamanÄ±z benim aÃ§Ä±mdan iyi olur. Åžimdiden teÅŸekkÃ¼rler iyi Ã§alÄ±ÅŸmalar

Kichwa	DÄ±ÅŸiÅŸleri BakanlÄ±ÄŸÄ±
Tafsiri Kituruki Ilitafsiriwa na ankarahastanesi	Lugha inayolengwa: Kituruki DÄ±ÅŸiÅŸleri BakanlÄ±ÄŸÄ±, Ä°ngiltere BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§iliÄŸine tebriklerini iletir ve Åžile, Marmara AdasÄ± ve Zonguldak'taki sahil uyarÄ± radar bÃ¶lgeleri iÃ§in Ã¼Ã§ tam IFF sisteminin saÄŸlanmasÄ± konulu 4 Åžubat 1966 tarihli 16 numaralÄ± BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik Notuna atÄ±fta bulunmak ister. Ankara, MayÄ±s,1966 Ä°ngiltere BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§iliÄŸi Ankara
Maelezo kwa mfasiri	smy's note: ------- "the honour to refer to" cÃ¼mlesinde eksik kelime var, doÄŸrusu "has the honour to refer to" olacak

Ilisahihishwa au kuhaririwa mwisho na smy - 27 Disemba 2007 17:02

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		25 Disemba 2007 14:23
	smy Idadi ya ujumbe: 2481	this translation is really good ankarahastanesi, I've made some edits but I'm not sure about the meaning of "Embassy's Note (BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik tezkeresi)"
		25 Disemba 2007 16:38
	ankarahastanesi Idadi ya ujumbe: 29	it may be:'bÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik notu' or 'bÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik kaydÄ±' and last part of the translation may be 'BÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik notundan dolayÄ± onurlandÄ±ÄŸÄ±nÄ± sunmaktadÄ±r'. In my opinion 'baÅŸvuru' is not suitable. thank you very much for your helping.
		25 Disemba 2007 16:43
	smy Idadi ya ujumbe: 2481	you're welcome ankarahastanesi 'bÃ¼yÃ¼kelÃ§ilik notu' is better and the translation for: "the honour to refer to the..." must be like above. But we may have a poll
		25 Disemba 2007 22:51
	kafetzou Idadi ya ujumbe: 7963	The phrase "present its compliments to" is just a formal salutation. Also, "the honour to refer to" is not "baÅŸvuru yapma onurunu" - but I don't understand what verb goes with "the honour" - "presents the honour to refer to" doesn't make sense. There is something wrong with the original text here.
		25 Disemba 2007 22:53
	kafetzou Idadi ya ujumbe: 7963	Masterburak, "and the honour" kÄ±smÄ±nda bir kelime eksik deÄŸil mi?
		26 Disemba 2007 12:30
	smy Idadi ya ujumbe: 2481	I think you are right about there is a missing verb here Kafetzou, I've made a search in google and here is a paragraph which is nearly the same with the source text here (http://fletcher.tufts.edu/multi/texts/bh903.txt): --------- "The Embassy of the United States of America presents its compliments to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of the Netherlands and has the honor to refer to the Agreement on the..." ------ I've found similar texts and each has this verb (has/have the honor to refer to) and it should be the case here. So, may that be "atÄ±fta bulunma ÅŸerefine/onuruna sahiptir", but I'm not sure, this is rather pompous style of writing , what it is the alternative sentence for "has/have the honor to refer to..."?
		26 Disemba 2007 15:43
	kafetzou Idadi ya ujumbe: 7963	"would like to refer to"? It simply means that whatever comes next will be about Note No. 16.
		26 Disemba 2007 16:44
	smy Idadi ya ujumbe: 2481	then it would be "gÃ¶nderme yapmak/atÄ±fta bulunmak ister" ankarahastanesi, could you edit it?
		26 Disemba 2007 17:21
	kafetzou Idadi ya ujumbe: 7963	It has nothing to do with "sending" - does "gÃ¶nderme" have another meaning here?
		26 Disemba 2007 20:41
	ankarahastanesi Idadi ya ujumbe: 29	atfen onur duyduÄŸunu sunmaktadÄ±r:gÃ¶nderme yaparak onurlandÄ±ÄŸÄ±nÄ± sunmaktadÄ±r:atÄ±fta bulunarak onurlandÄ±ÄŸÄ±nÄ± sunmaktadÄ±r.
		26 Disemba 2007 20:47
	kafetzou Idadi ya ujumbe: 7963	Sorry - you lost me. TÃ¼rkÃ§em var da o kadar yok.
		27 Disemba 2007 16:31
	smy Idadi ya ujumbe: 2481	gÃ¶nderme yapmak = to refer to
		27 Disemba 2007 16:38
	smy Idadi ya ujumbe: 2481	I've edited it according your suggestion Kafetzou (would like to refer to), and it means "atÄ±fta bulunmak/gÃ¶nderme yapmak ister"
		27 Disemba 2007 17:01
	smy Idadi ya ujumbe: 2481	it seems everybody agrees on it's correctness now, thank you all