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Traducerea - Turcă-Engleză - Sidqi

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Titlu
Sidqi
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Limba sursă: Turcă

Dîvânindan başka içinde üç dilde olmak üzere manzüm ve mensür lugaz ve muammalar ihtivâ eden Mecmû-i Hafîza isminde diğer bir eseri bulunmaktadir. Ayni zamanda değerli bir hattat olan Sidki; sülüs ve nesih yazilarini Ressam Ömer Efendi’den meşk etmiştir. Bursali Tâhir Bey Veziriâzam Ahmed Paşa’ya sundugu arazi’ ôlçûmûne dâir bir eserinden sözetmektedir.

Titlu
Sidqi, continued
Traducerea
Engleză

Tradus de kafetzou
Limba ţintă: Engleză

There is another work found called Mecmû-i Hafîza (Memory Collection), which also includes puzzles and riddles in verse and in proze, in Diwani script and three other languages. The Thuluth and Naskh calligraphic scripts of Sidqi, who was at the same time a valued calligrapher, were used as models by the painter Ömer Efendi. Mention is made of a work of his including a land measurement presented to Ahmed Pasha, the Grand Vizier Tahir Bey of Bursa.
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15 Aprilie 2007 02:17

samanthalee
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Will it flow better if we use parenthesis here instead of commas?

The Thuluth and Naskh calligraphic scripts of Sidqi (at the same time a valued calligrapher) were used as models by the painter Ömer Efendi.

15 Aprilie 2007 02:20

kafetzou
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Why would that flow better? The parenthesis serves the same purpose as the appositive set off by commas, but it implies that the information is unnecessary, which is not indicated in the Turkish original.

16 Aprilie 2007 01:13

samanthalee
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I don't quite agree with the view that things in parenthesis are unnecessary. If they are unnecessary, they shouldn't be written at all.

My concern here is that the subject matter is "the scripts", every part of the sentence should be refering to "the scripts". "Sidqi" is the subject detail; details of the subject detail shouldn't form part of the sentence.

16 Aprilie 2007 01:17

kafetzou
Numărul mesajelor scrise: 7963
Hmm. I never heard that grammar rule before, but I think I have a way to fix it so it will read better: Check it out.

16 Aprilie 2007 01:34

samanthalee
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Opps, you are right. That's the grammer rule for Chinese. Sorry, when I find something doesn't read well and tries to pin-point the reason, the grammer rules for both my native languages start mixing up.

Adding "who was" really helps.

16 Aprilie 2007 13:26

kafetzou
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Great - glad we got that worked out.

19 Aprilie 2007 14:03

serba
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And I don't understand this. Samanthalee doesn't know Turkish but she approves what kafetzou translates from Turkish into English .Please correct if I am wrong.I am puzzled...

19 Aprilie 2007 14:19

pirulito
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Oops! All the evidence points to it!

19 Aprilie 2007 16:25

kafetzou
Numărul mesajelor scrise: 7963
I don't understand pirulito's message above, but this is how the system works:

The experts are experts for their target language (usually their mother tongue) and they can approve translations from any language into that language. Usually, if we have no other information, we ask other translators to help with evaluation if we don't know the source language, and after we get enough positive feedback from other translators, we validate the translation.

Do you think there's a problem with this translation? It was a difficult one, as the Turkish is very old (probably transliterated Ottoman Turkish), so it's possible I misinterpreted something. Your feedback would be welcome.