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| | 4 Février 2007 17:40 |
| iriniNombre de messages: 849 | Confused Is it in feminine, masculine or that little nasty one that is in no "real" gender? I just ask 'cause "Il est" is also used for the non gender specific correct? (to translate in Greek I have to know exactly since we have a separate, neuter gender you see ) |
| | 4 Février 2007 17:47 |
| | Camisola is feminine. A camisola.
Francky's "(n)" = noun = substantive. |
| | 4 Février 2007 18:09 |
| iriniNombre de messages: 849 | Thanks but I was actually asking for the first sentence |
| | 4 Février 2007 23:17 |
| guilonNombre de messages: 1549 | Actually, there's no "nasty gender" in Portuguese when it comes to the articles, just masculine or feminine. Or better, masculine and neuter are the same, just like in French. The first sentence is masculine thoug.
However, "es o maior" doesn't mean "il est le plus grand":
es o maior = tu es le plus grand
é o maior = il est le plus grand. |
| | 5 Février 2007 01:18 |
| | Oh wow - this changes all of the translations that were done from the French, too! I've changed the English and will change the Greek, too. |
| | 5 Février 2007 01:24 |
| | This is my fault, I should have asked for advices to natives before validating, I won't do it once more, be sure of that!
I thought you spoke fluent Portuguese, frajofu, so I didn't check because of that ... |
| | 5 Février 2007 01:37 |
| iriniNombre de messages: 849 | Well that's what got me confused. My Portuguese is far from perfect but when I saw that "Il est" I thought we're talking about sth that would be in neuter if neuter existed in Pt and the change in person happened because of that.
Thanks guilon |
| | 5 Février 2007 02:08 |
| guilonNombre de messages: 1549 | Two more things, and I know I'm too meticulous:
-"Es o maior" is an idiom in Portuguese for "You are the best", and it is not about someone's age.
-It looks like the one who speaks is talking to a soccer player he admires. Or maybe not. But if that is the case, I'd translate "camisola" for "maillot" or "chemisette" in French, and then, "shirt" in English. This is only hypothetical.
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| | 5 Février 2007 02:30 |
| | Hmm. But does it have to be an idiom? If it's not an idiom, wouldn't it mean "You're the oldest", like "Eres el mayor" in Spanish? |
| | 5 Février 2007 02:47 |
| guilonNombre de messages: 1549 | Even if it wasn't an idiom, maior is not at all like Spanish "mayor" that is used for "older" and "oldest". In Portuguese, "maior" is comparative of "grande", or a person who has attained majority. |
| | 5 Février 2007 03:14 |
| | maior should be major
I agree with the equivalence, even if the equivalence is not 100% corresponding. |
| | 5 Février 2007 05:33 |
| | Hello pluiepoco
I don't totally understand what you wrote. What is the equivalence, and are you saying that the original Portuguese text is incorrect?
And, guilon, I don't totally understand your post either. A person who has attained majority is a person who has the full rights of an adult. How can that be comparative? |
| | 5 Février 2007 11:34 |
| guilonNombre de messages: 1549 | Hi, kafetzou, the thing is "maior" has two meanings in Portuguese:
-Comparative of "grande"
-Person who has attained...
Ip put emphasis on those to show you there is no equivalence with the Spanish "mayor".
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| | 5 Février 2007 11:49 |
| | The Portuguese meaning is very close to the French one :
"tu es majeur"
"la majeure partie de" : "la plus grande partie de"
Oui, si le contexte est un sport, on peut parler de maillot, c'est même préfèrable à tricot, surtout l'été...
Je pense que je vais opter pour ce dernier mot. Merci guilon! |
| | 5 Février 2007 14:55 |
| | Isn't "maillot" a swimsuit? |
| | 5 Février 2007 15:02 |
| | A sweamsuit is "maillot de bain", "maillot" is mostly used for sports, then it is often precised which sport it is about when the item is to be sold, but there's no need to precise when on a definite playground. For instance, at the swimming pool, you'd say : "donne moi ton maillot" as well... knowing that it's less doable
at the swimming pool than on a soccer area... |
| | 5 Février 2007 15:08 |
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