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| | 2008년 4월 29일 07:50 |
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Sende unut beni yokyere sevdiÄŸini=
Forget me too, you loved me to no purpose.
can it be? |
| | 2008년 4월 29일 14:56 |
| | that's exactly right kafetzou
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| | 2008년 4월 29일 15:42 |
| | merdogan, how about this:
What a shame - my years were wasted
You too - forget that you loved me in vain. CC: merdogan |
| | 2008년 4월 29일 16:55 |
| | kafetzou,
kafama şu takıldı:
'what a shame', 'haram olsun'a göre daha masum bir ifade. ama 'haram olsun'un ingilizcede tam karşılığı yok sanırım.
'Kahretsin!' veya 'Lanet olsun!' ifadelerinin ingilizcesi, buradaki 'haram olsun'un yerine kullanılabilirmi?
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| | 2008년 4월 29일 17:13 |
| | We could say, "Damn - my years were wasted," but actually, I think "what a shame" can be a bit stronger than you think. We could say "What a waste," but that's not the right meaning. |
| | 2008년 4월 29일 17:38 |
| | is it "Sende unut, beni yok yere sevdiÄŸini"
or
" Sende unut beni,yok yere sevdiÄŸini"
and
Haram olsun = May you get no benefit from it ?
cc FIGEN KIRCI |
| | 2008년 4월 29일 17:57 |
| | I found that translation on Zargan's website too - I think it's 1) awkward in English, and 2) not a very accurate translation for the phrase. |
| | 2008년 4월 30일 20:59 |
| | it seams that we will have no end. |
| | 2008년 5월 1일 06:53 |
| | What does "haram olsun" really mean here? Is that the only thing in the way of this translation being passed? |
| | 2008년 5월 1일 20:21 |
| | it means like " to be up to no good" or as you said,"May you get no benefit from it" .
he wants to say "I gave you my years (life) but you didn't see that"."May you get no benefit from it" .
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| | 2008년 5월 1일 20:24 |
| | But it doesn't say "sana haram olsun" - it just says "haram olsun" - I'm confused. Serba, can you help? CC: serba |
| | 2008년 5월 1일 20:26 |
| | By the way, "to be up to no good" is totally wrong - that means "to be doing something mischievous". I don't know how you got that one, merdogan. |
| | 2008년 5월 1일 23:23 |
| | if we follow up the text, he is speaking with somebody (with his love).He says her "haram olsun" .
He thought that he spent for her his years (life) but she didn't understand that.Therefor he says " May you get no benefit from it"
(by the way you are right for "to be up to no good".) |
| | 2008년 5월 7일 16:27 |
| | Well guys it's time to reach an agreement so that we can validate this translation.
What do you all say? CC: merdogan |
| | 2008년 5월 7일 16:57 |
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| | 2008년 5월 7일 20:01 |
| | hi kafetzou,
I found this in a dict. I hope it will help:
haram etmek = to take the pleasure out of smth or smone.
but, don't you think, as merdogan says 'may you get no benefit from it' perhaps will be ok?
so,
'..I've forgotten how many times I loved you
my years spent in vain,
may you get no benefit from it,
you too...' ,
it's not bad...
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| | 2008년 5월 7일 21:24 |
| | merdogan is right.
'haram olsun' is litt a curse= 'may it be haram' = forbidden, tainted, of which no benefit can come.
damn 'em, curse 'em
i think what a shame is just as good a translation though |
| | 2008년 5월 8일 08:37 |
| | How about if I just put the alternative translation (which sounds a bit awkward in English) in a note underneath? I'll do that. |
| | 2008년 5월 8일 08:37 |
| | bence "what a shame" çok güzel olmuş.
'may you get no benefit from it' anlamı budur doğru ancak şiir olarak düşünürsek kafetzou nun yazdığı gayet şık durmuş |
| | 2008년 5월 8일 08:45 |
| | serba, could you please vote for the translation then? CC: serba |