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Die Schlusszeile entspricht ebensogut denen aus...

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स्रोत भाषा: जर्मन

Die Schlusszeile entspricht ebensogut denen aus "Von Himmel hoch"; von letzterem stimmt zudem die zweite Zeile fast vollstÃ¤ndig Ã¼berein, auÃŸerdem enthÃ¤lt auch er Kurzzeilen, die allerdings mit ihren Ruf-Terzen melodisch abweichen. Kurzzeilen sind durchaus nicht ungewÃ¶hnlich; sie erscheinen beispielsweise such in "Was Gott tut, "Wachet auf", "Straf mich nicht", "Mache dich, mein Geist" und "Herzlich lieb hab ich dich". Als allgemein anerkanntes Vorbild fÃ¼r die erste Zeile gilt "Was mein Gott will" â€“ in der Fassung mit dem Durchgang auf der ersten Silbe[37]. Doch muss man bei diesem Bergleich in Mendelssohn "Choral" statt der Halben e' die sie Ã¼berlagernden Auftaktviertel als melodisch zugehÃ¶rig an- und das Abweichen ab der Zeilenmitte hinnehmen.

शीर्षक	Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy
अनुबाद अंग्रेजी Leinद्वारा अनुबाद गरिएको	अनुबाद गर्नुपर्ने भाषा: अंग्रेजी The closing line corresponds just as well to that from â€œVon Himmel hochâ€; from this last one furthermore the second line matches almost completely, in addition it also contains short lines, which however differ melodically in their descending minor third. Short lines are not unusual at all; they also appear for example in "Was Gott tut, "Wachet auf", "Straf mich nicht", "Mache dich, mein Geist" and "Herzlich lieb hab ich dich". A generally recognized model for the first line is considered to be "Was mein Gott will" - in the version with the passage on the first syllable [37]. However, in this comparison one should consider, instead of the half E1 in Mendelssohn's "Chorale", the overlapping fourths on the upbeat to be melodically related and the deviation to begin in the middle of the line.
अनुबादका लागि चाहिन सक्ने थप जानकारी	â€˜Ruf-Terzenâ€™, also called cuckoo terts, has been translated as 'descending minor third' here (thank you kafetzou!) "E1" is the E above high C.

Validated by kafetzou - 2008年 अगस्त 20日 03:42

पछिल्ला सन्देशहरु

	लेखक	सन्देश
		2008年 अगस्त 13日 18:14
	Lein चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 3389	There are a few things I'm struggling with here: I just don't know what Ruf-Terzen are. Same for Halben e'. I reckon it's a musical key but I don't know which one. Overlapping: wouls another word be better here? Superimposed? Any other suggestions? Not sure what word to use in the last sentence. Accept? Take?
		2008年 अगस्त 13日 18:20
	milkman चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 773	Thanks Lein! I think I get the gist of it
		2008年 अगस्त 13日 18:50
	italo07 चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 1474	I have no idea of music! But I googled "Rufterze" and it deals with pentatonic scale (look at the German page, too). I don't know what "halbes e'" in English would be. overlapping, maybe "overlaid"? I don't know. "accept" is a good translation for "hinnehmen".
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 07:05
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	An "e" is a note. A half e' must be like a half sharp or a half flat, but I don't know what the apostrophe means. Eine Terz = a third (in music), but I don't know what eine Rufterz is.
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 07:16
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	Also, I think Viertel should be "fourth" rather than "quarter" here. Doch muss man bei diesem Bergleich in Mendelssohn "Choral" statt der Halben e' die sie Ã¼berlagernden Auftaktviertel als melodisch zugehÃ¶rig an- und das Abweichen ab der Zeilenmitte hinnehmen. = In fact, in this comparison, one should consider, instead of the half e' in Mendelssohn's "Chorale", the opening note a fourth above it to belong melodically and the change to begin in the middle of the line. That's my interpretation, anyhow.
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 07:28
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	OK - a little more research about "Rufterz" brought me to this page, where the Rufterz is given as another word for Kuckucksterz (cuckoo third?), and the notes are given as G-E-G-G-E. I did find "cuckoo third" on a few websites, but they were German ones, written in English. I would say let's go ahead and use "cuckoo third", but then define it in the comments.
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 07:34
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	Ah wait - I found something better here: "the descending minor third ("sol-mi". In German music language, it's sometimes named the 'calling third' or 'cuckoo's third')" That was fun; now I can go to bed.
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 07:39
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	Nope - not yet. "e'" is apparently the e above middle c, also known as E4.
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 11:36
	italo07 चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 1474	iamfromaustria could help us but she is on vacation for 3 weeks. She plays piano.
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 17:45
	Lein चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 3389	Rufterzen e' (still not sure what 'half' means here and whether or not this would be the way to say it in English)
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 17:46
	Lein चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 3389	Here is my version after incorporation of some of your suggestions, kafetzou!
		2008年 अगस्त 14日 21:49
	milkman चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 773	Hey guys, please don't sweat it. It's clear enough now. Many thanks for all the help, Lein, italo, kafetzou
		2008年 अगस्त 15日 03:26
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	OK - I will accept it as is.
		2008年 अगस्त 19日 01:39
	jollyo चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 330	I'm sorry to bother after kafetzou's acceptance: - e' is in fact e1 (a typo according to milkman) - 'auftakt' should be 'prelude' or 'upbeat' which is different from just an opening fourth... - 'to differ' is 'verÃ¤ndern'; 'abweichen' is 'to deviate' Hope it helps.
		2008年 अगस्त 19日 06:16
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	I changed it, but I don't know what e1 is either.
		2008年 अगस्त 19日 23:30
	jollyo चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 330	"e1" is the e above the octavated middle c i.e. (middle)c-d-e-f-g-a-b-c1-d1-e1-.... (in Europe that is)
		2008年 अगस्त 20日 03:42
	kafetzou चिठ्ठीको सङ्ख्या: 7963	OK - I changed it and changed the note.