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| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 04:56 |
| | Hi Pia!
I understood that differently.
My suggestion would be:
"Love overcomes everything, so let's conquer love."
What do you think?
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| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 08:37 |
| piasTổng số bài gửi: 8113 | Hi Lilly!
Your first sense sounds like a good proposal.
But the last is not correct I think, since this is about that they want to be beaten or conquered by love, not the opposite. |
| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 13:51 |
| | Do you think a passive voice suits here? |
| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 13:56 |
| piasTổng số bài gửi: 8113 | Oh...I don't know what you mean with "passive voice" ??? |
| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 14:13 |
| | I refer to the "be beaten by love"
It's a passive voice. What I understood is that s/he suggests to "find" love (active attitude) not to "let love find them". I felt an attitude of searching and "be beaten by love" sounds to me like an attitude of "waiting for love to beat us".(passive attitude)
Crazy, isn't it? Sometimes we have an impression and it turns out a different thing!
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| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 14:47 |
| piasTổng số bài gửi: 8113 | No...this is NOT how I read the source. Sorry, but I can't agree with you here. It doesn't "say" that someone try to find love (active) I think. The meaning is moore like: "Love conquers/overcomes all, so let the love win over us, let the love conquer us".
Did you get that "try" to explain Lilly?
Is it better to write:
"Love overcomes everything, so let's be conquered by love." |
| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 15:11 |
| | Ok Pia!
As I said each one has a different feeling concerning love!
We, Latins are more "active" I think, we always want to "do it ourselves", hahaha.
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| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 15:34 |
| piasTổng số bài gửi: 8113 | Hahaha... you funny girl.
But the thing is that I don't think that we shall interpret the meaning of the source that isn't even written, just translate the text as cloose as we can.
Am I wrong about it?
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| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 15:38 |
| | Pias, you're right, but the original phrase was written by Virgil:
Amor omnia vincit, et nos cedamus amori
Love conquers all (things), (so) let us (too) surrender/ yield to love.
Kärleken övervinner allt, (så) låtom oss besegras av kärleken.
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| | 14 Tháng 3 2008 16:06 |
| piasTổng số bài gửi: 8113 | I believe that you both are right that the translation can be better, beaten sounds more like to be in a fight or something...stupid! So, I try to just change the words "be beaten by the" to "surrender to"
Thank you both Lilly and pirulito! |
| | 23 Tháng 3 2008 20:48 |
| | I like your most recent English. |
| | 23 Tháng 3 2008 20:54 |
| piasTổng số bài gửi: 8113 | Hi dramati,
which one do you mean ? |
| | 23 Tháng 3 2008 21:26 |
| | Love conquers all, so let us surrender to love. |