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Translation - Spaans-Engels - sturkon

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Title
sturkon
Text
Submitted by nava91
Source language: Spaans

sturkon
Remarks about the translation
no so se questa parola è spagnola o catalana.Non la trovo in nessun dizionario. Grazie

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Title
asturcon
Translation
Engels

Translated by acuario
Target language: Engels

asturcon
Remarks about the translation
This word its a type of horse from Asturias (Spain) but you can´t look for in a dictionary

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Author
Message

19 April 2007 15:26

nava91
Number of messages: 1268
Ahi, questo mi coglie impreparato...

19 April 2007 15:30

acuario
Number of messages: 132
Lo siento, no sé explicarme muy bien en inglés, se le llama sturkon a un tipo determinado de caballos que hay en Asturias, a lo mejor la palabrita forma parte del peculiar español de Asturias donde tienen palabras que forman parte de un dialecto llamado "bable", es decir no es español, ni catalán, ni gallego, ni euskera. Espero haberte ayudado.

19 April 2007 15:35

nava91
Number of messages: 1268
Non è questo il punto... Guarda qui...

19 April 2007 15:53

apple
Number of messages: 972
Io tendo a dar ragione ad acuario, anche per il fatto che il richiedente credeva che la parola fosse in spagnolo o catalano, quindi l'ha sentita in un contesto spagnolo.

19 April 2007 16:07

nava91
Number of messages: 1268
Se l'avesse sentita in un contesto spagnolo magari l'avrebbe capito che è una razza di cavalli... Va', chiedo a demian...

20 April 2007 05:48

kafetzou
Number of messages: 7963
I don't know what you guys said in Italian, but here's a website that mentions the horse in English.

20 April 2007 07:15

nava91
Number of messages: 1268
But the word is "sturkon", not "asturcon" or "Asturian".

20 April 2007 08:29

acuario
Number of messages: 132
ASTURIANO ES UN GENTILICIO DE LAS PERSONAS QUE VIVEN EN ASTURIAS NO TIENE NADA QUE VER CON ASTURCON. SUPONGO QUE LAS PERSONAS QUE VIVEN EN NAPOLES, SON NAPOLITANOS Y NO TIENE NADA QUE VER CON EL DULCE, O ES LO MISMO UNA PERSONA QUE UN DULCE, PUES ESO NO ES LO MISMO UN CABALLO QUE UNA PERSONA.

20 April 2007 13:47

kafetzou
Number of messages: 7963
I don't think they're called sturkons in English.

As to acuario's message, that's nonsense. Many animal breeds have the name of the people who raised them. I can think of two horse breeds off hand, and I'm not even a horse afficionado: Arabians and Mongolians.

20 April 2007 13:52

apple
Number of messages: 972
But, acuario, did you go to the link kafetzou gave? Do those horses look as they are in that link?

21 April 2007 02:22

Una Smith
Number of messages: 429
I think the "sturkon" is a bastardization of "asturcon"; to many people's ears it would sound the same.



23 April 2007 16:21

apple
Number of messages: 972
Thank you for you link about asturcon ponies, nava. The fact that they are ponies means that they are “not too big” (as Pirulito found out in his research: *Usturkon, *Sturkon —, «небольшой», «не слишком большой»). I searched a little more on google and found it (the little horse) spelled both sturcon and asturcon (even in Asturian sites). So, it makes me think that the word maybe has nothing to do with Asturias, although it begins by “astur”, but it may come from that word “Usturkon, Sturkon”. With regard with the Russian text, I read a little more: it says that the word for Russia, Russian and many others (like usturkon/sturkon) wouldn't come from Varyags (Scandinavians) or Slavs, as generally thought, but from peoples living in the Black Sea region (Scyths, Sarmatians, Ossetians).
Usturkon/sturkon meaning "not big" comes form those people languages.
What's more, I found a document in Catalan about a genetical research among different breeds of horses.
http://www.iecat.net/icea/pdf/quaderns%2024.pdf
if I understand well the asturcó is the most genetically different.
Might we have found an unknown ethymology?

25 April 2007 14:22

pirulito
Number of messages: 1180
When in doubt, do what the President does. Guess. "te mando un besito e un sturkon"

*sturkon (lapsus calami )= stick-on, sticker (in Spanish "calcomanía" ).

Te mando un bestio y una calcomanía = I send you a little kiss and a stick-on.



26 April 2007 03:36

kafetzou
Number of messages: 7963
What?

26 April 2007 14:01

apple
Number of messages: 972
What do you mean, Pirulito? Stick on doesn't sound like sturkon...And what president are you talking about?