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Category Literature - Science

Title

Sidqi

Text
Submitted by

ABDELJAOUAD

Source language: Turkish

DÃ®vÃ¢nindan baÅŸka iÃ§inde Ã¼Ã§ dilde olmak Ã¼zere manzÃ¼m ve mensÃ¼r lugaz ve muammalar ihtivÃ¢ eden MecmÃ»-i HafÃ®za isminde diÄŸer bir eseri bulunmaktadir. Ayni zamanda deÄŸerli bir hattat olan Sidki; sÃ¼lÃ¼s ve nesih yazilarini Ressam Ã–mer Efendiâ€™den meÅŸk etmiÅŸtir. Bursali TÃ¢hir Bey VeziriÃ¢zam Ahmed PaÅŸaâ€™ya sundugu araziâ€™ Ã´lÃ§Ã»mÃ»ne dÃ¢ir bir eserinden sÃ¶zetmektedir.

Title

Sidqi, continued

Translation

English

Translated by

kafetzou

Target language: English

There is another work found called MecmÃ»-i HafÃ®za (Memory Collection), which also includes puzzles and riddles in verse and in proze, in Diwani script and three other languages. The Thuluth and Naskh calligraphic scripts of Sidqi, who was at the same time a valued calligrapher, were used as models by the painter Ã–mer Efendi. Mention is made of a work of his including a land measurement presented to Ahmed Pasha, the Grand Vizier Tahir Bey of Bursa.

Validated by samanthalee - 16 April 2007 01:35

Last messages

	Author	Message
		15 April 2007 02:17
	samanthalee Number of messages: 235	Will it flow better if we use parenthesis here instead of commas? The Thuluth and Naskh calligraphic scripts of Sidqi (at the same time a valued calligrapher) were used as models by the painter Ã–mer Efendi.
		15 April 2007 02:20
	kafetzou Number of messages: 7963	Why would that flow better? The parenthesis serves the same purpose as the appositive set off by commas, but it implies that the information is unnecessary, which is not indicated in the Turkish original.
		16 April 2007 01:13
	samanthalee Number of messages: 235	I don't quite agree with the view that things in parenthesis are unnecessary. If they are unnecessary, they shouldn't be written at all. My concern here is that the subject matter is "the scripts", every part of the sentence should be refering to "the scripts". "Sidqi" is the subject detail; details of the subject detail shouldn't form part of the sentence.
		16 April 2007 01:17
	kafetzou Number of messages: 7963	Hmm. I never heard that grammar rule before, but I think I have a way to fix it so it will read better: Check it out.
		16 April 2007 01:34
	samanthalee Number of messages: 235	Opps, you are right. That's the grammer rule for Chinese. Sorry, when I find something doesn't read well and tries to pin-point the reason, the grammer rules for both my native languages start mixing up. Adding "who was" really helps.
		16 April 2007 13:26
	kafetzou Number of messages: 7963	Great - glad we got that worked out.
		19 April 2007 14:03
	serba Number of messages: 655	And I don't understand this. Samanthalee doesn't know Turkish but she approves what kafetzou translates from Turkish into English .Please correct if I am wrong.I am puzzled...
		19 April 2007 14:19
	pirulito Number of messages: 1180	Oops! All the evidence points to it!
		19 April 2007 16:25
	kafetzou Number of messages: 7963	I don't understand pirulito's message above, but this is how the system works: The experts are experts for their target language (usually their mother tongue) and they can approve translations from any language into that language. Usually, if we have no other information, we ask other translators to help with evaluation if we don't know the source language, and after we get enough positive feedback from other translators, we validate the translation. Do you think there's a problem with this translation? It was a difficult one, as the Turkish is very old (probably transliterated Ottoman Turkish), so it's possible I misinterpreted something. Your feedback would be welcome.