Tafsiri - Kiingereza-Kiitaliano - For a platonic future...

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Kichwa	For a platonic future...
Nakala Tafsiri iliombwa na Aneta B.	Lugha ya kimaumbile: Kiingereza Ilitafsiriwa na AleksanderS For a platonic future... With my dream I touch your face it beams with love foretelling fidelity in a platonic future Your sheltering presence ensures the joy of existence ensures warm silence all over the winter living beside

Kichwa	Per un futuro platonico
Tafsiri Kiitaliano Ilitafsiriwa na GhiRic	Lugha inayolengwa: Kiitaliano Per un futuro platonico Con il mio sogno Tocco la tua faccia Trasmette con amore La fedeltÃ veggente In un futuro platonico La tua presenza rassicurante Assicura la gioia dell'esistenza Assicura un caldo silenzio Nello stare vicini durante l'inverno.

Ilisahihishwa au kuhaririwa mwisho na alexfatt - 26 Februari 2013 19:18

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		2 Januari 2013 23:15
	alexfatt Idadi ya ujumbe: 1538	Here too, Aneta, do you think the meaning matches the source text?
		4 Januari 2013 17:41
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Hi GhiRic and Alex, Thank you for the translation. It looks very nice to me. Could we just make the last line shorter? "Nel inverno del tuo vivere/essere vicino"? Anyway, I'm not good at Italian enough to suggest anything.
		28 Februari 2013 23:28
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Hi Alex, You know, I'm still not sure of the last line. I know you've already accepted the translation, however the word "vicini" sounds bad to me, because I associate it with emotional "closeness" meanwhile the Polish line means something quite opposite. "w zimÄ™ naszego trwania OBOK" It was translated into English "all over the winter living beside" "Living beside" or better "our living beside" in this case means that we stay apart, that we stay/live nearby but yet far away (emotionally), because we can't be together anymore. That is why I called this period a "winter" and it doesn't refer to a real season of a year, but it is just a metaphor, a kind of our "life winter" when there is no us anymore. Hope you see what I mean.
		28 Februari 2013 23:41
	GhiRic Idadi ya ujumbe: 5	Yes, I understand what you mean. what about "nello stare vicini durante il FREDDO"? freddo, cold, might mean that the feelings the two people have reciprocally are not warm anymore, as you mean. Another possibility could be "il gelo" which I think has a "higher stylistic level". Let me know what you think!
		28 Februari 2013 23:45
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	But is the word "vicini" appropriate?
		1 Mechi 2013 00:04
	GhiRic Idadi ya ujumbe: 5	mmm, probably if we leave "vicini" it gives a sense of closeness, as you say. what about "nel nostro vivere nel gelo"? I hope it is better to you!
		1 Mechi 2013 00:14
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Is "vivere accanto" possible?
		1 Mechi 2013 00:21
	GhiRic Idadi ya ujumbe: 5	yes, why not.. vivere accanto is another possibility..
		1 Mechi 2013 16:37
	alexfatt Idadi ya ujumbe: 1538	Sorry for having accepted this translation in a hurry! Have you two come to an agreement?
		2 Mechi 2013 01:03
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	No problem, Alex I appreciate all suggestions of the translator. Thanks for them, GhiRic! I guess English version of the line may bring some misunderstanding. Maybe it lacks some words and it should be read as follows: "all over the winter OF OUR living beside". "living beside" yet means here being emotionally apart. It's about living beside each other but not with each other. so: nel inverno + Genetive nel inverno del nostro vivere accanto? Alex, maybe I can explain it to you in Latin? "In hieme nostri vivendi iuxta"
		2 Mechi 2013 13:03
	Aneta B. Idadi ya ujumbe: 4487	Hi guys, I've just come up with an idea that maybe an adjective "invernale"/"freddo" (?) would work here. In the English epression "winter living beside" a word "winter" was just used as an adjective that discribes a noun "living". What do you think?