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본문 hibakusha에 의해서 게시됨	원문 언어: 라틴어 11.7.0. De metallariis et metallis et procuratoribus metallorum. 11.7.3 Imperatores Gratianus, Valentinianus, Theodosius . Cuncti, qui per privatorum loca saxorum venam laboriosis effossionibus persequuntur, decimas fisco, decimas etiam domino repraesentent, cetero modo suis desideriis vindicando. * GRAT. VALENTIN. ET THEODOS. AAA. FLORO PP. *<A 382 D. III K. SEPT. CONSTANTINOPOLI ANTONIO ET SYAGRIO CONSS.>
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11.7.0. Concerning metal-miners, metals and procurators of metal mines.
11.7.3

Emperors Gratian, Valentinian and Theodosius. All who, by laborious diggings, follow a vein in the rocks belonging to private parties, shall pay one tenth to the fisc, one tenth to the owner, and keep the remainder themselves.
* VALENTINIAN AND THEODOSIUS AAA. TO FLORUS PRAETORIAN PREFECT <UNDER THE REIGN OF CONSTANTINOPLE ANTONIUS AND SYAGRIUS CONSUL 3rd SEPT. 382AD,>

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		2009년 9월 7일 08:43
	Efylove 게시물 갯수: 1015	At the end GRAT. is Gratianus, not "Thanks to" And you wrote August instead of Antonius. What do AAA. stand for?? Do you have an idea?
		2009년 9월 7일 09:32
	Aneta B. 게시물 갯수: 4487	AAA.? I have no idea, for sure abbreviation from some names, but we can leave it in abbreviation I think. CONSTANTINOPLE AUGUST --> CONSTANTINOPLE ANTONIUS (of course ) Emperors Gratian,... Gratianus = Eng.Gratian TO GRATIAN VALENTINIAN AND THEODOSIUS AAA. FLORUS PRAETORIAN PREFECT <CONSTANTINOPLE ANTONIUS AND SYAGRIUS CONSUL 3rd SEPT. 382AD> Is this ok now, Efee? (Uff! Not easy text...) CC: Efylove
		2009년 9월 7일 12:01
	Efylove 게시물 갯수: 1015	TO GRATIAN VALENTINIAN AND THEODOSIUS - maybe without "to" because it's some kind of signature... It's perfect!
		2009년 9월 7일 12:50
	Aneta B. 게시물 갯수: 4487	But it is in dative: GRAT[iano] VALENTIN[ino] ET THEODOS[io] AAA. FLORO PP. <A 382 D. III K. SEPT. CONSTANTINOPOLI ANTONIO ET SYAGRIO CONSS... so I will translate it as: "(addressed)to Gratian,..etc." CC: Efylove*
		2009년 9월 7일 12:55
	Efylove 게시물 갯수: 1015	I think it's some kind of absolute ablative. Maybe it should be "while Gratianus, Valent. etc. are emperors" or "being ... emperors". Maybe AAA. it's "Augustus" repeated three times: "Being ... Augusti". Like "Floro PP": "while Florus is praetorian perfect". And "while Antonius and Syagrus are consuls". A way to write the date? But I don't know, dear...
		2009년 9월 7일 13:02
	Aneta B. 게시물 갯수: 4487	Hmm... Maybe, you're right, dear one. I will check it, ok? I must compare it with some ancient sources...
		2009년 9월 7일 13:48
	Aneta B. 게시물 갯수: 4487	You know, what I think, Efee? The first part is probably in dative ("addresed to..." ) GRAT. VALENTIN. ET THEODOS. AAA. FLORO PP. and this one in parenthesis in Ablativus absolutus (stricte connected with date, so "under the reign of..." ): <A 382 D. III K. SEPT. CONSTANTINOPOLI ANTONIO ET SYAGRIO CONSS.> What do you think now? CC: Efylove*
		2009년 9월 7일 13:36
	Aneta B. 게시물 갯수: 4487	Compare with it (from Codex Iustinianus too): ARCAD. ET HONOR. AA. MESSALAE PP. *<A 399 D.XIIII K.MART.MEDIOLANI THEODORO PVC.CONS.> MESSALAE can't be Ablative... http://upmf-grenoble.fr/Haiti/Cours/Ak/Corpus/CJ11.htm
		2009년 9월 7일 18:36
	Efylove 게시물 갯수: 1015	This is the third time I try to write here (my pc has gone crazy!). So, Messalae was very helpful!!! It isn't ablative at all. But I have another idea. Second part: ablativus absulutus First part: three nominativi and a dativus "Gratian, Valentinian and Theodosius AAA. to Florus" Because, I think, if the emeprors wrote the law (as we read above) how could the law be addresed to themselves? And, I remember, in Late Antiquity, laws were in the form of a letter written to important members of the political estabilishment (such as our dear pratorian perfect!) What do you think, dear? We are going crazy with this text - but it's so funny!
		2009년 9월 7일 18:53
	Aneta B. 게시물 갯수: 4487	You are great, dear one!!! I love cooperating with you! Yes, I think your version is very possible. I think we can accept this version now: 11.7.0. Concerning metal-miners, metals and procurators of metal mines. 11.7.3 Emperors Gratian, Valentinian and Theodosius. All who, by laborious diggings, follow a vein in the rocks belonging to private parties, shall pay one tenth to the fisc, one tenth to the owner, and keep the remainder themselves. * VALENTINIAN AND THEODOSIUS AAA. TO FLORUS PRAETORIAN PREFECT <UNDER THE REIGN OF CONSTANTINOPLE ANTONIUS AND SYAGRIUS CONSUL 3rd SEPT. 382AD,> Do you agree, Efee?