Translation - Íoslainnis-Danish - Sva jÃ¡tadi hann oc at lofarfe erkibifkupi oc hans...

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Title	Sva jÃ¡tadi hann oc at lofarfe erkibifkupi oc hans...
Text Submitted by Stargazer	Source language: Íoslainnis Sva jÃ¡tadi hann oc at lofarfe erkibifkupi oc hans eptirkomandi at kaupa fugla GeirfÃ¡lka hvala oc gafa hauka fva fem hingal til hefir gaymt verit af hans for- mÃ¶nnum.
Remarks about the translation	Fra en 1700 tals tekst om falke og falkejagt. Noget af det er svÃ¦rt at lÃ¦se, sÃ¥ der kan vÃ¦re stavefejl i teksten. Hvis det er tilfÃ¦ldet vil jeg meget gerne have den korekte stavemÃ¥de.

Title	SÃ¥ tilstod han/sagde han ja
Translation Danish Translated by annaon	Target language: Danish SÃ¥ sagde han ja/sÃ¥ tilstod og lovede Ã¦rkebiskopen og hans efterkommere at kÃ¸be fugle, gejrfugle, hvale og give hÃ¸ge som hidtil var blevet holdt af hans forfÃ¦dre.
Remarks about the translation	Fva fem = sva sem, her kan det ikke vÃ¦re andet end "s". "gafa" lÃ¦ser jeg her som "gefa", altsÃ¥ give. Det er lidt svÃ¦rt at oversÃ¦tte "jÃ¡ta", siden det bÃ¥de kan betyde "at sige ja" og "tilstÃ¥". Det ville vÃ¦re rart at se afsnittet i sammenhÃ¦ng. Ellers er jeg er nysgerrig, hvor er denne tekst fra?

Validated by Anita_Luciano - 9 November 2008 23:27

Last messages

	Author	Message
		5 November 2008 10:18
	Anna_Louise Number of messages: 23	The translation could as well be right but the source language is not Icelandic, at least not correct Icelandic. Could it be FÃ¸royska?
		5 November 2008 10:21
	pias Number of messages: 8113	FÃ¸royska? CC: Bamsa
		5 November 2008 12:18
	annaon Number of messages: 6	Hi! This looks like Midieval orthography of Nordic, I'm not sure if it is Faroese - could be, my first language is not Faroese, it's Danish (and Icelandic). Since the text is from the 1700th century the orthography is bound to be different from modern languages anyway, so I couldn't really be sure. Has anyone got an idea?
		5 November 2008 13:33
	Bamsa Number of messages: 1524	It isn't Faroese, and we can't say it is wrong old icelandic, because Stargazer gave us a link that shows where he found it, a book written in old norse/icelandic. Anyway, the translation annaon did is okay, since it is a meaning only translation.
		5 November 2008 14:46
	pias Number of messages: 8113	Ok, so the flag is correct! But it can't be old norse, the notes tell it is a text from 1700.
		5 November 2008 15:31
	annaon Number of messages: 6	Ok, so we can all agree it's from the 1700's, as Stargazer's link showed us? Is my translation accepted then or not?
		5 November 2008 15:33
	Stargazer Number of messages: 4	Teksten stammer fra: Kongelige Norske Videnskabers Selskabs Skrifter II 1788 kapittel 3, "Om falke-Jagt" Artiklen er pÃ¥ dansk, men med citater pÃ¥ hvad jeg formoder er islansk. Man kan ogsÃ¥ se den her: http://books.google.dk/books?id=DeQAAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover#PPA61,M1 pÃ¥ side 59 og 60 finder du tekststykkerne.
		5 November 2008 15:37
	Bamsa Number of messages: 1524	Okay Pia, but if you read in that book (from 1700) it is written: I det gamle sprog heder det: "Sva jÃ¡tadi hann oc at lofarfe erkibifkupi oc hans eptirkomandi at kaupa fugla GeirfÃ¡lka hvala oc gafa hauka fva fem hingal til hefir gaymt verit af hans formÃ¶nnum". If they call it "det gamle sprog" in the year 1700, then it must be old
		5 November 2008 15:38
	Stargazer Number of messages: 4	... og skulle jeg mÃ¥ske tilfÃ¸je, annaonÂ´s oversÃ¦ttelse giver god mening i sammenhÃ¦ngen :-) tak for hjÃ¦lpen sÃ¥ langt :-) Lars
		5 November 2008 16:26
	pias Number of messages: 8113	I'm sure you are right Bamsa! The only thing I said was that if the text is from 1700 (as written in the notes) it can't be Old Norse.