Translation - Turks-Engels - ankara development

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ankara development

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Ankara iÃ§in ilk planlama denemeleri Heussler firmasÄ± eliyle, 1924 yÄ±lÄ±nda Eski Ankara (kale ve
Ã§evresi) ve 1925 yÄ±lÄ±nda Yenisehir iÃ§in Ästanbul Ämar Komisyonu Ã¼yesi, Berlinli mimar Dr. Carl
Ch. LÃ¶rcherâ€™e yaptÄ±rÄ±lan planlar ile baslar. Eski kent iÃ§in hazÄ±rlanan plan uygulanamaz
gerekÃ§esiyle uygun gÃ¶rÃ¼lmemis, LÃ¶rcher PlanÄ± diye anÄ±lan ve bugÃ¼nkÃ¼ SÄ±hhiye civarÄ±nÄ± iÃ§eren 150
ha. bÃ¼yÃ¼klÃ¼ÄŸÃ¼ndeki Yenisehir planÄ± ise uygulamaya sokulmustur.

Title	The first attempts to undertake city planning for Ankara
Translation Engels Translated by ToprakA	Target language: Engels The first attempts to undertake city planning for Ankara starts with plans commissioned by the Heussler Company, with a 1924 plan for Old Ankara (the fort and its surroundings) and a 1925 one for Yenisehir. Both of these are by the Berlin architect Dr. Carl Ch. Lorcher, who is a member of the Istanbul Development Commission. The plan for the old city was not found appropriate since it was decided that it was not implementable. On the other hand, the Yenisehir plan, also known as the "Lorcher Plan", which encompasses 150 hectares surrounding today's Sihhiye, was implemented.
Remarks about the translation	Longer sentences should really be broken into smaller ones when translating them into English. Modern American English does not favor long sentences. Ahmet Toprak

Laaste geakkrediteerde redigering deur Chantal - 9 August 2009 10:44

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	Author	Message
		5 August 2009 13:27
	Chantal Number of messages: 878	Ahmet, my text with some corrections: The first attempts to undertake city planning for Ankara starts with plans commissioned by the Heussler Company, with a 1924 plan for Old Ankara (the fort and its surroundings) and a 1925 one for Yenisehir, both of which are by the Berlin architect Dr. Carl Ch. Lorcher, who is a member of the Istanbul Development Commission. The plan for the old city was not found appropriate since it was decided that it was not implementable. On the other hand, the Yenisehir plan, also known as the "Lorcher Plan", which encompasses 150 hectares surrounding today's Sihhiye, was implemented. I still feel something is wrong in the last sentence though.. hmm..
		5 August 2009 19:45
	ToprakA Number of messages: 36	The problem is that the Turkish original is using too many clauses and we are trying to use the same structure in English. Even in the original Turkish version, the first sentence is difficult to understand. You have improved my last sentence by breaking it into two sentences. Ahmet Toprak
		5 August 2009 19:49
	Chantal Number of messages: 878	Yes, let's break up another one: The first attempts to undertake city planning for Ankara starts with plans commissioned by the Heussler Company, with a 1924 plan for Old Ankara (the fort and its surroundings) and a 1925 one for Yenisehir. Both of these are by the Berlin architect Dr. Carl Ch. Lorcher, who is a member of the Istanbul Development Commission. Shall I replace your version with what I wrote? Is that ok for you?
		6 August 2009 03:46
	ToprakA Number of messages: 36	I like yours. Yes, let's replace mine. Ahmet Toprak
		6 August 2009 09:21
	merdogan Number of messages: 3769	.... plans commissioned by the Heussler Company.....>... plans in care of Heussler Company.....,
		7 August 2009 13:17
	ToprakA Number of messages: 36	Unfortunately "plans in care of the H..." is not an appropriate translation. Ahmet Toprak
		7 August 2009 00:14
	merdogan Number of messages: 3769	Why not? It is " eliyle; in care of "
		7 August 2009 18:02
	ToprakA Number of messages: 36	Translating what you wrote back to Turkish, you are saying the following: "Heussler firmasinin gozetimindeki planlar". "eliyle" could have been "tarafindan" or "-ince" ("firmasinca" ). If you take the clause in the middle out it becomes clearer: "Ankara iÃ§in ilk planlama denemeleri Heussler firmasÄ± eliyle [..] Berlinli mimar Dr. Carl Ch. LÃ¶rcherâ€™e yaptÄ±rÄ±lan planlar ile baslar." Ahmet Toprak
		7 August 2009 13:16
	Francky5591 Number of messages: 12396	Ahmet, Ahmet... I already set direct links on the forum area , and I'll add this one as well, (if you don't mind), but please do not post links in the discussion areas from the translations. It is not allowed here on Thank you, best regards,