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horum autem distributore gratiarum iuxta largifluam bonitatem suam conferente spiritu sancto primum ordinem, scilicet legalem explicuimus totum moysi pentateuchum transeuntes, quo velut grandi fenore liberati ad Iosue manum mittimus; cum enim de legalibus actum sit, de prophetalibus agi consequens est.
17 Syyskuu 2009 12:10





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17 Syyskuu 2009 06:37

jairhaas
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I made a mistake, it reads: feilicet

17 Syyskuu 2009 11:17

Aneta B.
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I'm sorry, but this word is even more weird and not Latin for sure...

17 Syyskuu 2009 11:27

jairhaas
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We are dealing with a book printed at the end of the 16th century, a bit hard to decipher. Does "scilicet" help you?

17 Syyskuu 2009 11:50

Aneta B.
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Oh, yes!!! It's a really good one!!! So you can edit... Thank you!

25 Syyskuu 2009 09:34

jairhaas
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I finished editing.

25 Syyskuu 2009 13:05

Aneta B.
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Thank you, jairhaas!

5 Lokakuu 2009 14:32

Efylove
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jairhaas, hi! could the first word - "horum" - be "harum"?

5 Lokakuu 2009 15:05

jairhaas
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No, it definitely says "horum", which I have learned is the Gen. Plu. of Hic/Hoc. I have found the combination "horum autem" on the net in several places. Jairhaas

5 Lokakuu 2009 15:25

lilian canale
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jairhaas,
I have to ask you again: Please, don't call for an admin all the time, this is not an administrative issue, but something that is being discussed between you and the Latin experts. They will get your message, OK?

5 Lokakuu 2009 15:54

Efylove
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Uhm... I've got some problems with that "horum" - which means "of these" (but "these" who?) - and that "legalem" at the end of the first line... What it is said in your book before this sentence, jairhaas?

5 Lokakuu 2009 16:01

jairhaas
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Lilian, it seems to me that there might be some technical problems on the system, I am not calling for any admins, only answering the questions I am being asked. I am going to answer Efylove's question, please check if this entails a call for an admin. Thank you!

5 Lokakuu 2009 16:05

jairhaas
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Efylve, before that is the headline or subject of the discussion: "An liber Iosue sit historicus, vel prophetalis; & qui libri sint prophetales, & historici. Et de Pentateucho Moysi" (of Moses).

5 Lokakuu 2009 16:15

lilian canale
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I think you are checking the box under the message field. You don't have to since the messages will come to you anyway. After you write the message, just click on the blue box with an arrow.
Let's try. Answer this message the way I said, OK?

5 Lokakuu 2009 16:18

Efylove
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Ok, jairhaas. I've translated it. But I'm not so sure, because the subject is quite difficult to me... So, if you find something strange, please tell me.

And, Aneta, please: could you take a look at this?


6 Lokakuu 2009 11:18

Aneta B.
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Efee, I agree with you it should be "harum" instaed of "horum". "harum" can be connected with "gratiarum" then. Otherwise I have no idea with what to connect it...

6 Lokakuu 2009 13:39

Efylove
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I've read it as a partitive complement linked to the introduction of this sentence:
"An liber Iosue sit historicus, vel prophetalis; & qui libri sint prophetales, & historici. Et de Pentateucho Moysi"

horum = of these books (the ones mentioned in the introduction)

?

6 Lokakuu 2009 15:48

Aneta B.
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Well, it may be like you say, Efee. Let's take it that "quorum" concerned the books. We have no context here, so we must assume sth... I accept this presumption...

6 Lokakuu 2009 16:52

jairhaas
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Lilian, I think you're right. I am glad we clarified this annoying mistake. I'm sure you are too.

6 Lokakuu 2009 16:55

lilian canale
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6 Lokakuu 2009 16:56

jairhaas
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Efylove, thank you for your efforts. On the nearest opportunity, I will go over your translation and see how it fits in with the and the context of his discussion.(assumed) intentions of the author.
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